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Hi, I’m fairly new to FVP4000T and FVP5000T use having recently got hold of one each for personal use. I got the FVP4000T first and now use the FVP500T. Looking into playing the FVP4000T recordings on the FVP5000T, it seems I can do this over the wifi network – the FVP4000T files can be found and played on the FVP5000T.
The question is, is there any way of transferring them so that I can empty the FVP4000T and give it to a relative? USB doesn’t work, presumably because of different file types or encoding issues. Does anyone have any knowledge in this area? I will get rid of the FVP4000T when the programmes have been watched but transferring them would let me do it now.
batteryman – 1 hour ago »
Hi, I’m fairly new to FVP4000T and FVP5000T use having recently got hold of one each for personal use. I got the FVP4000T first and now use the FVP500T. Looking into playing the FVP4000T recordings on the FVP5000T, it seems I can do this over the wifi network – the FVP4000T files can be found and played on the FVP5000T.
Are these HD recordings?
The question is, is there any way of transferring them so that I can empty the FVP4000T and give it to a relative? USB doesn’t work, presumably because of different file types or encoding issues.
What software version is the FVP4000T running? The file types should be the same. HD recordings won’t be decrypted by copy to USB.
The boxes can play each others file over your network because the dlna client and server is TCP-IP compliant. The sending box provides the decryption key to the receiving box. Guessing if you physically move recordings to a box that didn’t make the recordings they will not play because the encryption key is unique to each box.
Thanks for the reply. The recordings are HD.
Much as I thought. Pity there isn’t a nice little software routine to decrypt them. I’ll have to be patient, as will my relative who’s getting the FVP-4000T.
batteryman – 13 mins ago »
Thanks for the reply. The recordings are HD.
Much as I thought. Pity there isn’t a nice little software routine to decrypt them. I’ll have to be patient, as will my relative who’s getting the FVP-4000T.
Had the two boxes been HUMAX HDR-FOX T2’s you could have done what you wanted to do. Very easily.
Same goes for the HDR-2000T, I’ve managed well with those and the aid of an old Humax hdd – WD Green 320gb AV drive in a powered cradle. Copying through usb is dreadfully slow though, usually done overnight or longer.
batteryman – 46 mins ago »
Thanks for the reply. The recordings are HD.
Could you confirm that the FVP-5000T will play HD content from the FVP-4000T? Will the FVP-4000T play HD content from the FVP-5000T (my guess is no)?
Hi, coming back to Martin on this one. Both units have software version 1.03.51 which I think is the latest version.
With both units on and the 5000T selected on the tv input, going into the Media section brings up the 4000T in the media list and the files on it are accessible and will play.
Doing this the other way round, the Media section on the 4000T doesn’t show the 5000T in the list so no access to the files.
Question for anyone, how can I stop the yellow message which tells me I can’t play through hdmi link because my tv doesn’t support some feature or other? The 5000T and 4000T both play through hdmi without problems, just the annoying message which disappears after a few seconds.
grahamlthompson – 18 hours ago »
The boxes can play each others file over your network because the dlna client and server is TCP-IP compliant. The sending box provides the decryption key to the receiving box. Guessing if you physically move recordings to a box that didn’t make the recordings they will not play because the encryption key is unique to each box.
I think that you mean DTCP-IP (Digital Transmission Content Protection). Everything that connects to the internet is probably TCP-IP compliant!
batteryman – 9 mins ago »
Hi, coming back to Martin on this one. Both units have software version 1.03.51 which I think is the latest version.
With both units on and the 5000T selected on the tv input, going into the Media section brings up the 4000T in the media list and the files on it are accessible and will play.
Doing this the other way round, the Media section on the 4000T doesn’t show the 5000T in the list so no access to the files.
Thanks; that confirms some previous reports. I suspect if you make an SD recording on the 5000T that will show up and be playable.
Yes, Digital Transmission Content Protection. The tv is a Toshiba smart tv so I think it shouldn’t be showing the message. I did have the 5000T connected to a scart input through a converter for a while; maybe it didn’t like that.
Quote:With both units on and the 5000T selected on the tv input, going into the Media section brings up the 4000T in the media list and the files on it are accessible and will play.Doing this the other way round, the Media section on the 4000T doesn’t show the 5000T in the list so no access to the files.
This seems strange to me. AFAIK both boxes run the same software. Indeed my 5000T thinks it is a 4000T. (Network check for software update). If it works one way, why not the other? Indeed if Graham T is correct that the server box does the decryption – which I guess it must because the encryption key is hard coded into server. Why can one not play 5000T recordings on a FOX-T2 over DLNA as the source server would decrypt the files when playing. I know this has been discussed many time here and elsewhere but it would be handy to know what is possible and what is not.
batteryman – 1 day ago »
Yes, Digital Transmission Content Protection. The tv is a Toshiba smart tv so I think it shouldn’t be showing the message. I did have the 5000T connected to a scart input through a converter for a while; maybe it didn’t like that.
The scart was the culprit because the system would be thinking you were trying to copy from one device to another.
GrahamRHK – 37 mins ago »
This seems strange to me. AFAIK both boxes run the same software. Indeed my 5000T thinks it is a 4000T. (Network check for software update). If it works one way, why not the other?
Best guess is that the 5000T doesn’t support DTCP for the DLNA server. Has anybody asked Humax about this to establish whether this is a deliberate change or some sort of bug? Note that you can play SD content from a 5000T on an HDR-FOX T2 but not HD.
As I said previously, both boxes are running software version 1.03.51. The units are networked via wifi. The 5000T has its original 1tb disk; the 4000T has been upgraded from 500gb to 1.5tb using the WD Green disk from a Sky box, tested before installing.
I’m leaving this query now, more important stuff to do – the dreaded DIY!
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