new harddisk cannot be formatted

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  • #12183
    Anonymous
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    Hi

    This week the original HD of my 9200C gave up. I searched my old stuff and came up with a 500GB USB drive that still contained an IDE drive. I removed it and build it in my Humax.

    It started and a message “Do you want to format the drive” came up. I selected “OK” and it asked for my system password. I gave it and after 1 second “Formatting ready” Appeared. After klicking OK it rebooted and then cam up with the same question again. I tried a few times but it stayed that way.

    Selecting “NO” on the format question brings the Humax in normal mode but it does not recognize the disk and does not allow recording.

    What do I do wrong? The drive is normally working on a PC.

    Thanks in advance!

    Walter

    #25923
    Martin Liddle
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    So what make and model of hard drive is it?

    #25924
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 Model ST3250823A

    and it is a 250, not a 500…

    #25925
    Martin Liddle
    Participant

    How are the jumpers configured?. 9200T uses Cable select. Note the drive you are trying to use is not an ACE type designed for use in PVRs and so you may experience some subsequent problems but I would expect it to format OK.

    #25926
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Yeah I figured that out already, I set it to CS.

    I already saw reactions on the forum that you run into standby problems when using a non-AV drive. But I did not expect problems @ this stage.

    Thanks for your help anyway! Highly appreciated!

    #25927
    Martin Liddle
    Participant

    I am puzzled. I have seen the behaviour you report but only on a drive that was in such a bad state that the Seagate SeaTools flagged practically every sector as bad. Might be worth running the Seagate diagnostics on it and see if they report anything.

    #25928
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Is the disc partitioned? I had an issue with one that was, Easy to clear the partition table with a Linux box, not sure how to do so with M$

    I think they use their own non-standard format so an empty table is probably best.

    #25929
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    No i just put it in, was MAC OS X formatted, I hate windows….

    But good point, I’ll try that, thanks!

    #25930
    Martin Liddle
    Participant

    Richard MQ – 1 hour ago  » 

    Is the disc partitioned? I had an issue with one that was,

    I have regularly formatted disks in the Humax that have previously been formatted on a PC and I haven’t had any problem. What happened with yours?

    #25931
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I don’t use M$ Windows (except at work where I have no choice) – both Linux and Mac generally use multiple partitions on a disc whereas (the default in) M$ is a single block. I think the problem I had was with one with the fairly standard Linux scheme of boot, swap, LUKS root & LUKS home. The Mac scheme is IIRC much more complex.

    I will be very interested to see if this is the problem for the OP.

    #25932
    Martin Liddle
    Participant

    Richard MQ – 2 hours ago  » 

    I think the problem I had was with one with the fairly standard Linux scheme of boot, swap, LUKS root & LUKS home.

    Having used Unix/Linus for more than 20 years, I have a reasonable understanding of the partition schemes. What you haven’t said is what actual problem you had? My understanding is that the Humax simply overwrites whatever is on the disk with a blank file system so I am struggling to understand why it matters what is present prior to the Humax format. Of course if there was a bad block in a region not used by the previous file system then that could explain the problem.

    #25933
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi All

    Just returned home (I work in Germany) I wanted to try the partition trick.

    But unfortunately my Humax is now completely dead. I think the power board has given up. 220V is going in, but not a single volt is coming out, nowhere.

    So I have to solve that first (if possible…) I’ll keep you posted. Thanks for all the responses!

    Walter

    #25934
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Martin Liddle: I honestly cannot remember any details, only that the drive was visible but it refused to initialise it just as the OP said. I think the HD proved to be OK when tried elsewhere

    @wvdheiden: take extreme care when touching the PSU module – capacitors store up to 350V dc & retain charge for a while after power off. That’s enough to really hurt, maybe even kill. I speak from experience (though thankfully not recent experience).

    #25935
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    A capacitor in a power supply is very unlikely to deliver a lethal current especially as it’s DC and can store limited energy. As soon as you pull current the voltage will collapse much like the thousand of volt shock you get from a static source. Potentially up to a million volts from a wimshurt machine. In any case it can certainly hurt, wise to simply discharge any capacitors. A voltmeter will do the job nicely and you can see when the energy has been discharged.

    Make sure the box is unplugged though pretty sure the heatsink is live at 240V ac.

    This may help

    http://www.free-sat-tv.co.uk/Humax.php

    #25936
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks for the warnings. I am experienced with (high voltage) electronics. Old CRT tubes also hurt when you touched them in the wrong place…

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