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October 16, 2020 at 10:03 pm #13092
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InactiveThe last 2 days i have been getting a lot of signal issues with HD channels in the Liverpool area, keeps often saying the signal is too weak etc.
It never usually has any issues here.
I looked on the freeview status page and that didn’t seem to show any work being done or issues?
James
October 17, 2020 at 7:32 am #31460FenderBender
ModeratorIf you are getting your freeview signal from Winter Hill, then I know there is no problem with the transmitter because I get my freeview from there too.
Whats the signal strength and quality like on those channels?
It’s possble you might be getting interference from another source. When I had this problem, which especially affected my SD channels, I went to this web page: at800. If you contact the people there you can get a free filter to block out 4G frequency interference. I live quite a distance from Winter Hill, so they sent me two in case one wasn’t enough.
October 19, 2020 at 6:24 pm #31461Anonymous
InactiveHi, thanks for the reply, I have been in touch with at800 as you mentioned, they said i do have masts in my area but wanted me to give them a call.
I have just noticed tonight that my channels have actually moved around a bit. Channel 101 and 102 now say BBC Wales on them, i am assuming this is the case for channels 103-105 as well but they just do not say wales on them. when i go to them it shows no programme infornation or play just breifly.
My normal channels are now listed 0887 – 0889 and have all the recording set on them.
I really don’t know whats happened or how, they have always been set to 101 – 105 for HD channels.
I done a smart retune but nothing seems to have changed, i was holding off on a full scan so i didn’t lose my schedules tonight.
October 19, 2020 at 6:33 pm #31462grahamlthompson
Participantjames_uk – 4 mins ago »
Hi, thanks for the reply, I have been in touch with at800 as you mentioned, they said i do have masts in my area but wanted me to give them a call.
I have just noticed tonight that my channels have actually moved around a bit. Channel 101 and 102 now say BBC Wales on them, i am assuming this is the case for channels 103-105 as well but they just do not say wales on them. when i go to them it shows no programme infornation or play just breifly.
My normal channels are now listed 0887 – 0889 and have all the recording set on them.
I really don’t know whats happened or how, they have always been set to 101 – 105 for HD channels.
I done a smart retune but nothing seems to have changed, i was holding off on a full scan so i didn’t lose my schedules tonight.
A auto tune is picking up channels from more than one transmitter.
Briefly you need to identify the transmitter that you shouyld be using to get your regional channels. Make a note of the UHF carrier numbers it uses for it’s mux.
Delete all your existing channels. Use manual tune to add each MUX (DVB-T for SD and DVB-T2) for HD.
Receiving from more than one transmitter can cause issues with accurate recordings.
October 20, 2020 at 8:50 am #31463Anonymous
InactiveThis is actually getting stranger now, I have done a full retune and now after it’s complete and you pick your location the box has always suggested the North West first in there light but now Wales is coming up first, I pick North West which is second in the list and my box is no longer showing any of the HD channels at all, if I press 101 is just shows as nothing. My aerial doesn’t seem to have changed direction at all from what I can see, I thought maybe in high winds if may have come loose maybe but seems fine.
October 20, 2020 at 9:04 am #31464Anonymous
InactiveWhat sort of “full retune” did you do?
Did you follow Graham’s excellent advice to identify your correct transmitter (I imagine Winter Hill or Storeton), totally clear out all your existing channels, and retune using Manual (not auto or Smart)?
Don’t forget to photograph your recording schedule before you start.
Use https://www.freeview.co.uk/corporate/platform-management to help identifying your transmitter.
October 20, 2020 at 9:10 am #31465grahamlthompson
Participantjames_uk – 15 mins ago »
This is actually getting stranger now, I have done a full retune and now after it’s complete and you pick your location the box has always suggested the North West first in there light but now Wales is coming up first, I pick North West which is second in the list and my box is no longer showing any of the HD channels at all, if I press 101 is just shows as nothing. My aerial doesn’t seem to have changed direction at all from what I can see, I thought maybe in high winds if may have come loose maybe but seems fine.
You were probably retuning in high pressure uplift conditions and getting transmitters normally out of range. If you temporarily fit a attenuator you might be able to autotune. The box checks UHF carriers 21-68 the first found gets the lower lcn others get lcn’s in the 800s.
It’s very simple to manually tune anyway.
October 20, 2020 at 9:13 am #31466Anonymous
InactiveThanks for the replies, I done the default tune where it says you lose all your schedules, I will try a manual tune at some point. My transmitter is winter hill.
I don’t have any if there main hd channels do I will have to try something lol
October 20, 2020 at 9:19 am #31467Anonymous
Inactivejames_uk – 5 mins ago »
Thanks for the replies, I done the default tune where it says you lose all your schedules, I will try a manual tune at some point. My transmitter is winter hill.
I don’t have any if there main hd channels do I will have to try something lol
Don’t forget to clear everything out before a manual tune.
October 20, 2020 at 9:25 am #31468Anonymous
InactiveYou do that by stating an auto tune then stopping it straight away and saving don’t I?
October 20, 2020 at 9:44 am #31469grahamlthompson
Participantjames_uk – 3 mins ago »
You do that by stating an auto tune then stopping it straight away and saving don’t I?
Press the FVP button. Go to settings – Channel Settings – Edit channel list. With TV selected press + Select all then Delete. Change group to radio. Repeat to Delete all Radio.
Armed with your list of carriers
eg Winter Hill
https://ukfree.tv/transmitters/tv/Winter_Hill
PSB 1 – 32
PSB-2 – 34
PSB-3 – 35 DVB-T2
COM 4 – 29
COM 5 – 31
COM 6 – 37 DVB-T2
LPR – 56
COM 7 55 DVB-T2
GIM 57
Use DVB-T modulation except where DVB-T2 is shown
Select manual channel search
Enter the above numbers in turn changing transmission as indicated. The stregth and quality is shown for each mux. Click search and save the results.
October 20, 2020 at 10:44 am #31470Anonymous
InactiveNot sure if UHF channels 56 and 57 are still in use at Winter Hill.
According to https://www.freeview.co.uk/help/coverage-checker/detailed-view/granada they changed from those channels earlier in the year.
October 20, 2020 at 10:47 am #31471Anonymous
Inactivegrahamlthompson – 48 mins ago »
james_uk – 3 mins ago »
https: //ukfree.tv / transmitters / tv / Winter_Hill
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LPR – 56
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GIM 57
That site takes up to 3 years to reflect the situation.
GIM for winter hill is on 27 not 57. Also the winter Hill local muxies do vary but none are on 56 anymore.
See https://www.freeview.co.uk/help/coverage-checker/detailed-view/granada for more rapid updates for winter hill, (as well as its mux allocation history).
October 20, 2020 at 12:34 pm #31472Anonymous
InactiveHi, I have done manual tune before and have always been fine, I have tried using all the above mentioned channels and all show no signal and ask have that before. Obviously when I try to go on TV no it says no channels found. Oddly enough though if I go to signal test it shows tuner 1 with 71% strength and 100% quality in channel 28. Not sure why it’s randomly showing that but that’s there only thing I can see showing any signal. This has never happened before.
There is a TV connected to the same aerial upstairs and I’ve just tried that and all the channels are showing fine. I wonder if it’s the Humax box in some way?
October 20, 2020 at 12:54 pm #31473Anonymous
Inactive28 is one of the channels on Storeton, not Winter Hill.
The others are:
25 DVB-T
22 DVB-T2
23 DVB-T
26 DVB-T
30 DVB-T
43 is L-LIV, but not sure if DVB-T or T2 (DVB-T I suspect).
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