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Hello again. I have copied out my wife’s “HUGE” collection of “Strictly Come Dancing” that is consuming my 9200T. I have them on a 1TB Seagate Backup+ external drive. I have successfully played iplayer files back, in full screen, through the TV on this drive which connects directly to the USB input on my Samsung TV. However, when I play an un-doctored .TS file on this drive from the 9200T, I get more of a square picture with long faces. I have tried the display tools on the Samsung but they can’t change what I see. Can I do anything with these files to get them in a better format so I can start grabbing back some of the Humax disk space for my own purposes, Thanks.
Problem is most likely down to the TV, or more specifically the settings you have on the TV, regarding the aspect ratio. The picture you get on the screen, depends on two independent settings.
1 The aspect ratio of the overall picture (Usually 16:9)
2 The shape of the pixels assumed by the display (technically the PAR – Pixel Aspect Ratio), usually square but can be rectangular in both horizontal and vertical orientation.
Both the above information is contained within the file you are trying to display.
Not being familiar with the TV, you should check the display options in the TV menus.
Start by looking for a 16:9 picture aspect ratio and a auto option.
Had a look at the TV in more detail. When using TV native I have full control on aspect ratio. (Flat screen TV is about 3 years old so pretty up to date). However, when I access the external HDD with the .TS files, I only have 2 choices for picture size, FIT (which looks like 4:3) and ORIGINAL (which shrinks it to an even smaller square size). I have been googling and it appears there are a lot of people over the years having problems filling the TV screen, and all the suggestions are tortuous and I haven’t found one thread that seems to work. It just seems weird to me (as a non-video specialist) that the Humax can play the files back through the TV happily but an external copy of same file presents a problem. Anyone got anything to suggest – or do I have to buy the wife her own PVR?
Can you upload a short clip of an affected ts to a file share site so I can have a look at what you actually have ?
Hi Graham, I loaded a file on dropbox and replied via email. Just checking if you got the details?
Not got anything. Either PM me or post the link in this thread, someone else may have a look as well.
Here is a link to dropbox with a 2 min .TS file. Hope you like Kojak!
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/78294018/20140311%201451%20Kojak.ts
It’s a pillarbox 4:3 format. Should play in a 16:9 window with black borders each side.
This works fine on my PC using Splash Media Player and VLC.
Clip Details
General
ID : 24640 (0x6040)
Complete name : C:UsersGrahamDownloads20140311 1451 Kojak.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 9.93 MiB
Duration : 51s 988ms
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 598 Kbps
Video
ID : 601 (0x259)
Menu ID : 28032 (0x6D80)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : Variable
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 50s 560ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 390 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 15.0 Mbps
Width : 544 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Active Format Description : Pillarbox 4:3 image
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.177
Stream size : 8.38 MiB (84%)
Audio
ID : 602 (0x25A)
Menu ID : 28032 (0x6D80)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Mode : Joint stereo
Codec ID : 4
Duration : 51s 120ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 29ms
Stream size : 799 KiB (8%)
Language : English
Text
ID : 603 (0x25B)
Menu ID : 28032 (0x6D80)
Format : DVB Subtitle
Codec ID : 6
Duration : 49s 574ms
Delay relative to video : 3s 592ms
Language : English
Menu
ID : 1037 (0x40D)
Menu ID : 28032 (0x6D80)
Duration : 51s 988ms
List : 601 (0x259) (MPEG Video) / 602 (0x25A) (MPEG Audio, English) / 604 (0x25C) (MPEG Audio) / 603 (0x25B) (DVB Subtitle, English) / 8000 (0x1F40) ()
Language : / English / / English
What are the available format settings on the TV ?
Thanks for looking at it. I agree with what you say.
BUT this was recorded on my Humax and plays back on the TV in 16:9 full screen when using the Humax replay. So, why can’t I play it back in the same manner when I export it to an external drive.
PURBECKFOSSIL – 3 minutes ago »
Thanks for looking at it. I agree with what you say.
BUT this was recorded on my Humax and plays back on the TV in 16:9 full screen when using the Humax replay. So, why can’t I play it back in the same manner when I export it to an external drive.
What screen format settings do have on the TV ? It’s clearly stretching the image incorrectly.
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Hi Graham, in previous post I mentioned that I had a more detailed look at the TV. When using TV native I have full control on aspect ratio. (Flat screen TV is about 3 years old so pretty up to date). However, when I access the external HDD with the .TS files, I only have 2 choices for picture size, FIT (which looks like 4:3) and ORIGINAL (which shrinks it to an even smaller square size). Maybe the Samsung can’t handle it?
You say that the Kojak file is a pillarbox 4:3 format. So, how come this is the case when it was recorded on the 9200T and exported using the HUMAXRW utility. Are there any settings I have missed that would export it in 16:9 format?
PURBECKFOSSIL – 10 minutes ago »
Hi Graham, in previous post I mentioned that I had a more detailed look at the TV. When using TV native I have full control on aspect ratio. (Flat screen TV is about 3 years old so pretty up to date). However, when I access the external HDD with the .TS files, I only have 2 choices for picture size, FIT (which looks like 4:3) and ORIGINAL (which shrinks it to an even smaller square size). Maybe the Samsung can’t handle it?
You say that the Kojak file is a pillarbox 4:3 format. So, how come this is the case when it was recorded on the 9200T and exported using the HUMAXRW utility. Are there any settings I have missed that would export it in 16:9 format?
Presumably because the original broadcast was 4:3.
This may help
http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/add-black-bars-to-43-video-to-add-to-169
Basically you need some sort of video editor with a black 16:9 layer with the 4:3 video on top of it.
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