Forum › Forums › Freeview HD › HDR 1800T, 2000T › HDR 1800T
Tagged: Hard drive replacement HDR 1800T
- This topic has 17 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated 2 years, 1 month ago by
Anonymous.
-
AuthorPosts
-
March 18, 2019 at 12:56 pm #20469
Anonymous
InactiveMy Humax HDR 1800T playing up 50% of the time when I switch it on I have no media, I have found if I ask it to record manually the hard drive kicks in, So I thought I would try another hard drive, took a 320gb from a SKY box but the Humax won’t see it, I found I could format it in factory settings but I just get processing any ideas please, is this a known fault and how do I fit a different hard drive
March 31, 2019 at 6:53 pm #90481Anonymous
InactiveI have the same problem with an 1800t, I unplug and plug in box without waiting, I do it quickly so I don’t lose scheduled recordings. It seems to be a common fault with this box.
Your new hard drive will need jumpers set in correct position.
They are next to hard drive connector, don’t know correct setting though sorry.
March 31, 2019 at 7:39 pm #90482Anonymous
InactiveYes its a very well known fault.
As far as Im concerned the 2000 and the 1800t have never been right
I dont know if they have been working behind the scenes to improve new batches as there seem to have been plenty of returns creating refurbished stock. I dont know how many versions of the motherboard there are. I know they have been cutting costs since the MK1 version of the 2000( the 1800 is essentially the same)
Humax fixed the sound issue with an update but they havent fixed the hard drive recognition problem. Mine was also unacceptably noisy so I feel they rushed them to market without final design QC checks
Personally I dont think Humax have been too bothered and its a percentage game of returns. I should have returned mine and I will never make that mistake again with any product
March 31, 2019 at 8:00 pm #90483Anonymous
InactiveI will not buy any more Humax devices that’s for sure
April 2, 2019 at 5:54 pm #90484Anonymous
InactiveI’ve fitted hard disks to two HDR 2000T machines and also had a problem with disk recognition. I found that if the disks were formatted to NTFS using Windows 10, the Humax would then recognise them and formatting went OK using the Humax format routine.
PS I’ve never had to change jumpers when fitting a SATA hard drive to any Humax – PVR9300T, Foxsat HDR or HDR2000T.
April 2, 2019 at 6:06 pm #90485grahamlthompson
Participantbatteryman – 9 minutes ago »
I’ve fitted hard disks to two HDR 2000T machines and also had a problem with disk recognition. I found that if the disks were formatted to NTFS using Windows 10, the Humax would then recognise them and formatting went OK using the Humax format routine.
PS I’ve never had to change jumpers when fitting a SATA hard drive to any Humax – PVR9300T, Foxsat HDR or HDR2000T.
Depends on the drive you used. If you fit a newer WD drive to a Foxsat-HDR you have to fit the speed reducing jumper. Seagate pipeline drives don’t have jumpers so presumably they auto adjust to the drive controller capability.
April 3, 2019 at 7:43 pm #90486Anonymous
Inactivewell The Humax should be able to recognise its factory fitted disc as it does 50% of the time.
I wouldnt get peoples hopes up about swapping drives and thats only something that a keen hobbyist is going to do with those machines. I could swap a drive but I cant be bothered buying one for this unit as I would rather buy a new pvr
By the time you have bought a decent drive(unless one is knocking about)you may as well just get another PVR anyway
Point is we shouldnt have to be talking about the jumper config on a product thats just supposed to work for years until uneconomical to repair
April 3, 2019 at 8:10 pm #90487grahamlthompson
ParticipantMinstrel SE – 2 minutes ago »
well The Humax should be able to recognise its factory fitted disc as it does 50% of the time.
I wouldnt get peoples hopes up about swapping drives and thats only something that a keen hobbyist is going to do with those machines. I could swap a drive but I cant be bothered buying one for this unit as I would rather buy a new pvr
By the time you have bought a decent drive(unless one is knocking about)you may as well just get another PVR anyway
Point is we shouldnt have to be talking about the jumper config on a product thats just supposed to work for years until uneconomical to repair
That’s a rather daft post. The one component in a pvr with moving parts parts is the hard disk, and hence the only component that is likely to fail prematurely is the Hard disk.
You have completely missed the point re the jumper settings.
The poster does not say he replaced the hard disk with the same spec disk at all. Most likely the disk used was not the original spec but one designed to be capable of supporting higher transfer speeds when fitted to newer kit when fitted to a newer machine with support for later SATA versions.
I have no experience with 1800/2000T boxes but in general you can expect to change a hard disk in a Humax pvr long before other component failures make it uneconomic to do so.
The totally unknown figure here is the number of running hours and the disk shut downs and start ups that the hard disk has done.
I have a original Foxsat-HDR that has the 1TB disk in it I put in just after launch. It doesn’t do much recording and it still works fine.
I have a HDR-1000S from the very first batch that had a 2TB drive installed in it, that worked verey hard being on at least 18hrs/day (The box is recording all the time it’s on). The drive failed about 2.5yrs later. Replacing the drive restored 100% function and it’s been about 2yrs now. I fully expect to replace it again before the box fails completely.
I have two HDR-FOX-T2’s that are still working just fine.
You have completely missed the point re the jumper settings. Since the earlier boxes were built the original, Serial ATA (SATA) spec has advanced with the maximum data speed increasing by 3 times 1, 2 and 3).
It’s entirely reasonable to expect that a 10yr old PVR may require a hard disk change.
The original hardware may only support SATA 2.0.
Western Digital chose to support the earlier spec by simply providing a simple drive jumper.
This is nothing to do with Humax, it’s merely the rapid advance of all things computing.
Would you expect a 10yr old PC to be able to play back 4K UHD video ?
April 3, 2019 at 11:13 pm #90488Martin Liddle
ParticipantMinstrel SE – 3 hours ago »
I wouldnt get peoples hopes up about swapping drives and thats only something that a keen hobbyist is going to do with those machines.
It is a very straightforward procedure to change the hard drive in an HDR-1800T/2000T. I think it took 15 minutes the last time I changed one and nothing needed to be done to prepare the drive.
April 4, 2019 at 5:20 am #90489Anonymous
InactiveOk yes I accept what you are saying but Im getting frustrated with you talking about hard drive swaps. Yes I could easily do it and have swapped several drives.
However we are talking about the 1800 and slightly bigger brother the 2000t here. Large batches if not all of them are not fit for purpose in my opinion
You are referencing a different model that doesnt have the chronic issues of a budget product rushed out to meet a price point.
My post is not that daft when you consider that most 1800t owners posting here just want the thing working without sourcing drives. It wont work because there is something flawed with the firmware or motherboard. It took them years to update the sound issue suggesting the firmware is all up the chute!
The op was frustrated that the product didnt work properly 50% of the time. Swapping the drive is not a guaranteed answer to these issues. If someone wants to try it thats up to them but I wouldnt advise them to spend more money on a product that has never been right…I strongly suspect it wont read any new hard drive 50% of the time.
You say yourself that you dont know the issues on these models. I do to a point and the best advice is to send them back if they can.
If there are firmware issues in the unit as I believe then spending money on a new drive could be a complete waste of money
April 4, 2019 at 6:18 am #90490Anonymous
InactiveThanks for your responses, I contacted Humax about my 1800T and I was given instructions how to do a factory reset and up to now the 1800T is finding the hard drive 100% of the time, I have bought a 2000T from eBay very cheaply so if I have any more problem’s I will use that, I must add when I tried to changed the hard drive in the 1800T the PCB Board is stamped 2000T. I have now sourced a 2.5 500GB sata hard drive no jumpers, but if the 1800T plays up I will see if it will see or format it, I must also add the 1800T is used every night and up to now been very good,
April 4, 2019 at 10:08 am #90491Martin Liddle
ParticipantMinstrel SE – 4 hours ago »
Ok yes I accept what you are saying but Im getting frustrated with you talking about hard drive swaps.
I get frustrated by your repeated attempts to portray the HDR-2000T as a very poor product; it isn’t perfect but it does a reasonable job for most people. We have had an HDR-2000T for five years which is mainly used by my partner and she is very happy with it. The only issue we have had was a faulty remote control (the early ones were problematic) which was replaced free of charge by Humax without any fuss. In the case of the hard drive swap I described this was because my partner wanted a larger hard drive not because there was any problem with the operation of the hard drive.
If somebody is having difficulty in changing a hard drive I will try and help; I really don’t understand why that frustrates you. Perhaps you could put more effort into trying to help people and less about criticising the HDR-2000T.
April 4, 2019 at 11:37 am #90492Anonymous
InactiveAnyway I have just stuck my recent acquired 2.5 500Gb sata drive in a laptop it would not fit in my computer, I formatted it FAT32 when the laptop started up, stuck it in the 1800T when the 1800T started it said hard drive needs formatting off it went, I now have nearly 500Gb, my next step is to try and transfer all my unwatched programs from the original 320Gb to the 500Gb but I will leave that for another day. again thanks for helping and if any one else is having problems with their 1800T or 200T,s not seeing their hard drive try the factory reset seems to have worked for me.
April 4, 2019 at 3:02 pm #90493Anonymous
InactiveMartin Liddle – 4 hours ago »
Minstrel SE – 4 hours ago »
Ok yes I accept what you are saying but Im getting frustrated with you talking about hard drive swaps.
I get frustrated by your repeated attempts to portray the HDR-2000T as a very poor product; it isn’t perfect but it does a reasonable job for most people. We have had an HDR-2000T for five years which is mainly used by my partner and she is very happy with it. The only issue we have had was a faulty remote control (the early ones were problematic) which was replaced free of charge by Humax without any fuss. In the case of the hard drive swap I described this was because my partner wanted a larger hard drive not because there was any problem with the operation of the hard drive.
If somebody is having difficulty in changing a hard drive I will try and help; I really don’t understand why that frustrates you. Perhaps you could put more effort into trying to help people and less about criticising the HDR-2000T.
Ah lets see what I and many others got out of the box then. A unit that wouldnt output sound every time until a firmware update about a year later.
A unit that doesnt recognise media functions and takes at least one reboot(maybe more) to do so. That fault is intermittent actually making it more of a niggle.
A unit that reboots when coming out of certain internet functions or just randomly on occasion when it cant cope.
A unit that is more noisy than it should be having been stripped right down since the Mk1 version and now without all the shielding and dampers on the hard drive. The fan is a red herring…they should have kept the fan because all the extra damping and shielding came with it. a little bit of fan noise is nothing compared with how the faulty later units amplify head noise
I am helping people by informing them they have bought a substandard product. It is a poor product overall because its flawed. The good picture and recordings wouldnt really save any product that doesnt switch on properly.
What they do with that information is up to them. Yours might work but enough of them dont so people can balance what we say.
I am having too much of a go….not really when you consider its the most flawed product I think I have ever bought
April 4, 2019 at 3:04 pm #90494Anonymous
InactiveMartin Liddle – 4 hours ago »
Minstrel SE – 4 hours ago »
Ok yes I accept what you are saying but Im getting frustrated with you talking about hard drive swaps.
I get frustrated by your repeated attempts to portray the HDR-2000T as a very poor product; it isn’t perfect but it does a reasonable job for most people. We have had an HDR-2000T for five years which is mainly used by my partner and she is very happy with it. The only issue we have had was a faulty remote control (the early ones were problematic) which was replaced free of charge by Humax without any fuss. In the case of the hard drive swap I described this was because my partner wanted a larger hard drive not because there was any problem with the operation of the hard drive.
If somebody is having difficulty in changing a hard drive I will try and help; I really don’t understand why that frustrates you. Perhaps you could put more effort into trying to help people and less about criticising the HDR-2000T.
Ah lets see what I and many others got out of the box then. A unit that wouldnt output sound every time until a firmware update about a year later.
A unit that doesnt recognise media functions and takes at least one reboot(maybe more) to do so. That fault is intermittent making it more of a niggle. Will it be two reboots today…no Im lucky its only one reboot which takes a significant tme
A unit that reboots when coming out of internet functions or just randomly when it cant cope with menu commands changing channels quickly.
A unit that freezes in menu sections as you go into the set up menu back and exit buttons not registering from basic commands etc
A unit that is more noisy than it should be having been stripped right down since the Mk1 version without all the shielding and dampers on the hard drive. The fan is a red herring…they should have kept the fan because all the extra damping and shielding came with it. a little bit of fan noise is nothing compared with how the later units amplify head noise
I am helping people by informing them they have bought a substandard product. It is a poor product overall because its flawed. The good picture and recordings wont really save any product that doesnt switch on reliably.
What they do with that information is up to them bearing in mind they have already reported a fault. Yours might work but enough of them dont so people can balance what we say.
I am having too much of a go….not really when you consider its the most flawed product I own. Why I put up with it is another issue but Im now looking to get something reliable.
-
AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.