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I have a fvp-5000t with 500GB disk space which is almost full now.
I have been copying/moving programmes onto an external SSD attached via USB. The copy seems to take a very long time. A two hour programme took just over two hours. Tried copying onto a fast USB3 stick and it is still just as slow.
This is when the humax box was completely free from other activities, not recording or viewing anything.
It appears that the humax box is playing the programme whilst decoding to copy.
It is a shame that when the files (programmes) are transferred using “drive map” (Windows 10) or ftp (binary mode), they seem to be encrypted.
I have emailed Humax Support but no response.
Any thoughts appreciated.
jpv1960 – 7 mins ago »
It appears that the humax box is playing the programme whilst decoding to copy.
Have you tried using the DMS server which is far and away the quickest way to transfer programmes from an FVP to a Windows 10 PC?
jpv1960 – 3 mins ago »
I have a fvp-5000t with 500GB disk space which is almost full now.
I have been copying/moving programmes onto an external SSD attached via USB. The copy seems to take a very long time. A two hour programme took just over two hours. Tried copying onto a fast USB3 stick and it is still just as slow.
This is when the humax box was completely free from other activities, not recording or viewing anything.
It appears that the humax box is playing the programme whilst decoding to copy.
It is a shame that when the files (programmes) are transferred using “drive map” (Windows 10) or ftp (binary mode), they seem to be encrypted.
I have emailed Humax Support but no response.
Any thoughts appreciated.
All the recordings are encrypted. If SD recordings are transferred to Windows 10 they should be decrypted using Samba. It’s the decryption process that is slow. The file transfer is a low priority task for the cpu. Priority is given to maintaining the pvr functions, with the transfer having to steal clock cycles from the cpu.
The write speed of the usb device is irrelevant. Even the slowest usb stick will be more than adequate.
Files copied in this way are purely archived they can only be played back on the box that recorded it
see the faqs
Martin Liddle – 9 mins ago »
Have you tried using the DMS server which is far and away the quickest way to transfer programmes from an FVP to a Windows 10 PC?
Apologies for my ignorance, any information links to DMS server, I have no idea that is. I enabled samba and ftp on humax and was able to do a network drive map from my Mac and PC.
jpv1960 – 44 mins ago »
Apologies for my ignorance, any information links to DMS server, I have no idea that is. I enabled samba and ftp on humax and was able to do a network drive map from my Mac and PC.
On a Windows 10 computer, start Windows Explorer, select This PC, scroll down to Network (NB don’t click on Network) and you should see HUMAX FVP DMS xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx which is the DMS server, right click on it and select Open.
Martin and Graham,
Many thanks for all your help. All sorted now.
I had to enable SMB1 on Windows 10 which fixed the mapping issue. Now using the DMS Server.
Your vast knowledge saved my day once again.
Much Appreciated,
Jay
grahamlthompson – 10 hours ago »
If SD recordings are transferred to Windows 10 they should be decrypted using Samba.
I have seen absolutely no evidence that transferring recordings via Samba decrypts recordings. If you think it does then please describe the method. The best way to get unencrypted SD recordings is, as I said above, to use the DMS server which is just a way of connecting to the DLNA server on the box; this gives decryption much quicker than any other method.
I have ‘turned off samba’ on fvp-5000t, the file transfer using ‘DMS Server’ method is running fine. Just started overnight transfer.
jpv1960 – 8 hours ago »
I have ‘turned off samba’ on fvp-5000t, the file transfer using ‘DMS Server’ method is running fine. Just started overnight transfer.
Please ignore the above this. I had the file transfer running when I turned off samba and the file transfer carried on working.
But after further checks this morning, I see that by turning Samba ‘off’, the drive mapping from fvp-5000t was gone on iMac. So I had to turn it back on.
Apologies for the unnecessary confusion.
jpv1960 – 2 hours ago »
But after further checks this morning, I see that by turning Samba ‘off’, the drive mapping from fvp-5000t was gone on iMac.
Forgive my ignorance, but could you explain what you mean by drive mapping and what you use it for?
Martin Liddle – 51 mins ago
Forgive my ignorance, but could you explain what you mean by drive mapping and what you use it for?
On iMac, like on windows, in the file manager (finder), network drives become visible. When connecting to fvp-5000t, iMac asks who you want to connect as, and I just used ‘guest’ account with no password.
Unfortunately, unlike Windows, the files are still .TS and encrypted. Trying to find if “DMS Server” concept exists on iMac, in the meantime, I use Windows Laptop or Windows on iMac via virtualbox.
See attached picture. – picture upload denied, see if I can reduce it in size and upload.
jpv1960 – 1 hour ago »
On iMac, like on windows, in the file manager (finder), network drives become visible. When connecting to fvp-5000t, iMac asks who you want to connect as, and I just used ‘guest’ account with no password.
OK that does sound like SAMBA. Interesting that it works on an iMac; Humax must be using a more up to date version of SAMBA than is used in the Custom firmware for the HDR-FOX T2 and FOXSAT-HDR where the obsolescent version 1.0 SMB protocol is used because the later versions are more resource intensive.
Unfortunately, unlike Windows, the files are still .TS and encrypted.
If you transfer via SAMBA to Windows the files will be encrypted.
Trying to find if “DMS Server” concept exists on iMac.
What you are looking for is a DLNA client that will allow saving of the output. It might be possible with VLC although last time I tried I couldn’t find the right options.
As far as I can work out, fvp-5000t still uses SMBv1 protocol. I had to execute ‘optionalfeatures’ in Windows 10 and enable SMBv1 for me to use DMS Server.
Thanks for your tip about VLC, I can see and play all the recorded files on fvp-5000t when running VLC on iMac (OS – Catalina) and works really fast. I now just need to find a way of saving it! (Although not a big issue as I can just transfer using my Windows Laptop)
jpv1960 – 6 days ago »
Thanks for your tip about VLC, I can see and play all the recorded files on fvp-5000t when running VLC on iMac (OS – Catalina) and works really fast. I now just need to find a way of saving it! (Although not a big issue as I can just transfer using my Windows Laptop)
I did try playing about with saving recordings from VLC. I thought it had failed but to my surprise when looking in the Documents directory on my PC, I found it had saved a recording, so it is possible. Only problem is that there was no sound when played, I guess it is using the wrong sound track. If you are interested in getting this working on the Mac I suggest you find a VLC forum and ask the question there. I think it would be interesting for a number of people with a number of different models of Humax but at the moment I don’t have time to pursue it.
Martin Liddle – 2 mins ago »
I suggest you find a VLC forum and ask the question there. I think it would be interesting for a number of people with a number of different models of Humax but at the moment I don’t have time to pursue it.
Found out few days back by checking all the options. It is quite easy to download a programme from fvp-5000 using VLC on Mac Computer. Once you have opened the ‘library’, main VLC menu on Mac, select ‘local network’ –> ‘Universal Plug and Play’. Select ‘FVP-5000T DMS (IP addr)’ –>Recordings. Now from the Menu Bar at the very top, select FILE –> Convert / Stream.
Select a programme file you wish to download from under the ‘Recordings’ folder and ‘drop’ it into the ‘Convert / Stream’ box. It is important to use the ‘drag and drop’ method, as the ‘open media’ option will not displsy files on fvp-5000t. You can use the ‘open media’ option if you just want to convert the format of an existing video file under your Mac folders, e.g. TS to mp4, or just Sound output file.
The next setting is under ‘Choose Profile’. Click on ‘Customise..’ and select the output. I have been using MPEG-TS. Under the tab ‘Video Codec’, select ‘keep original video track’ and do same under ‘Sound Codec’. Click on ‘Save as new profile’ and give your profile a name, for future use. Now under ‘Choose Destination’ select ‘save as file’ Decide on location and filename.
Lastly, click on ‘Save’. Download takes a few minutes, depending on the network speed and the speed of the Mac as it is doing a ‘conversion’ on the fly.
Interesting to note that one can set the output profile to be just sound, eg, mp3, flac, Wav. Useful if it is a music programme and you just want the sound or for anyone with visual impairment etc..
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