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  • #21430
    Anonymous
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    About 2 years ago I bought a s/h Foxsat HDR for our elderly neighbour, here in The Dordogne, SW France.

    I don’t think the box has ever been working properly, but that might be down to Chris being confused. This time he really screwed it up and I have had a go at rescuing the situation. But I have only been partly successful. Here is the situation as best as I can remember.

    Note that I call Chris our elderly neighbour; but that doesn’t mean that I’m a youngster. To be specific, Chris is 81, I am 75. So a lot of the technical side of modern life is a bit of a mystery, to put it mildly.

    I found his box working like this: Could receive about 8 TV channels, one or two radio channels; not recognising postcode; total inability to auto retune.

    After some hunting on here (thanks, guys) and a couple of visits he now has all the TV and Radio channels (at least, I think he has all of them). BUT every channel has a ‘5000’ type number. Not at all in sequence.

    I went to manual tune, got up the transponder list. I did find ..426H but that showed zero strength/zero quality. After trial and error I did hit upon a VERTICAL transponder with good strength/quality and that did download all TV and radio channels OK, but all with 5000 numbers. Not in any sequence.

    Chris has always turned his box off at night. We never do – and I guess this is why our box ‘did it’s own thing’ when some change or other happened (earlier this year?).

    I just had a thought – Since we are only about 300metres apart, I could check which transponder we are on here and then try the same transponder on his?

    #101035
    grahamlthompson
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    You or he has carried out a non freesat tune. You should find a menu option settop mode.

    If you change this back to freesat mode hopefully epg and everything else will return to normal.

    The box needs to be in sby overnight to keep up with transponder changes.

    However the symptoms would seem to indicate a failed lnb or possibly water in the coax cabling.

    Have you got both vertical and horizontal channels in the non freesat list ?

    #101036
    Martin Liddle
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    grahamlthompson – 2 mins ago  » 

    If you change this back to freesat mode hopefully epg and everything else will return to normal.

    Graham, he said that the postcode wasn’t recognised; wouldn’t that suggest a dish alignment problem?

    #101037
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    Martin Liddle – 14 mins ago  » 

    grahamlthompson – 2 mins ago  » 

    If you change this back to freesat mode hopefully epg and everything else will return to normal.

    Graham, he said that the postcode wasn’t recognised; wouldn’t that suggest a dish alignment problem?

    Or the lnb can’t get horizontal channels. That’s why I wanted to know if the non freesat list had horizontal variants especially if they were from UK spot beam transponders.

    If the op can say that the list includes channels like BBC1-HD.

    Like these for example (all on 10964 H)

    Channel 5 HD

    Channel 5 +1

    5 USA

    5 USA +1

    Paramount

    5STAR

    My5

    5Spike

    A rough location would help. In northern France the home transponder now on a UK spot should be fine. Repassac can help here if told the locatiob.

    #101038
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    Afterthought. Do both of them have the same Size dish ?

    #101039
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    Thinking about this the first low band horizontal transponder found on a UK spot beam so will have the lowest numbers is this one.

    If the op has any of these should be no reason that the home transponder is not usable, other than the ones in brown which are encrypted.

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    #101040
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi again and thanks for your help. I’m no expert – by any means. I seem to recall from yesterday’s tries that yes, H and V transponders are visible. I can’t recall whether ‘sitting’ on a given transponder gave signal strength/quality. It certainly did on the one we are now using (it’s a V) and which is giving the ‘5000’ numbers.

    I’ve again looked at which transponder we are on here in my house. I go MENU – setup – manual tune – right – right and I see ‘All’.. I daren’t go any further. When I did this a couple of hours ago I saw 10714 I think, H or V I don’t know – but I then scrolled right……many times until it stopped. I had been expecting to see a green tick against one of the numbers but didn’t. By doing what I did, have I inadvertently selected ‘All’? Things seem ok.

    Graham, you say : “”You or he has carried out a non freesat tune. You should find a menu option settop mode.”” ….. How do I do that, please?

    We are at the Southern extremity of the Dordogne, 15miles (25km) S of Bergerac.

    #101041
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Graham — I just found this that you posted 3 yrs ago:

    You have switched your Foxsat into non-freesat (Free To Air) mode.

    Menu – Settings – STB Mode. Change non-freesat back to freesat

    So I’ll have a look at that. I’ll take my phone, so I can photograph the screen if I get something unfathomable.

    #101042
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Please also post a postcode and dish size. I am south of you in 32460 Perchede with a 100cm dish.

    Please also confirm connected with two feeds to outer connections.

    #101043
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    rogermunns – 4 hours ago  » 

    Hi again and thanks for your help. I’m no expert – by any means. I seem to recall from yesterday’s tries that yes, H and V transponders are visible. I can’t recall whether ‘sitting’ on a given transponder gave signal strength/quality. It certainly did on the one we are now using (it’s a V) and which is giving the ‘5000’ numbers.

    I’ve again looked at which transponder we are on here in my house. I go MENU – setup – manual tune – right – right and I see ‘All’.. I daren’t go any further. When I did this a couple of hours ago I saw 10714 I think, H or V I don’t know – but I then scrolled right……many times until it stopped. I had been expecting to see a green tick against one of the numbers but didn’t. By doing what I did, have I inadvertently selected ‘All’? Things seem ok.

    Graham, you say : “”You or he has carried out a non freesat tune. You should find a menu option settop mode.”” ….. How do I do that, please?

    We are at the Southern extremity of the Dordogne, 15miles (25km) S of Bergerac.

    While viewing any channel press the opt+ button, It will give you the transponder details you should find the lowest numbers are the first transponder I posted a screen grab of. Tune to 5000 and pres opt+. Just tell us what the details are.

    #101044
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    This is a pic of MY Humax transponder details. I haven’t been able to go over to neighbour’s house today, will do tomorrow.

    He only has one lead into back of Humax. There are 4 leads entering the house, so I’ll check where they are coming from.

    We are in 24500 Razac d’Eymet. I don’t know for sure his dish size.

    Mine is 80cm, it is on a pole in the ground, did it myself in 2011, good alignment. Fitted new LNB about a year ago when it was struggling in rail. Now it can really tip down and it is still ok.

    #101045
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Oh! now I see pic size must be <0.1MB

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    #101046
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Easier to read(!)

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    #101047
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    rogermunns – 9 hours ago  » 

    ………..

    He only has one lead into back of Humax. There are 4 leads entering the house, so I’ll check where they are coming from.

    We are in 24500 Razac d’Eymet. I don’t know for sure his dish size.

    ……….

    If he only has one lead to his Foxsat does he have a connection from LNB1 Out to LNB2 in? A Foxsat will assume it is fitted. It is best to make a short lead yourself.

    Without the lead when he is recording some channels which the Foxsat thinks can be viewed will get no signal.

    At your location, about 120km North of me, I would think 80cm is about the minimum size dish.

    #101048
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    If you do find and connect a working cable to tuner 2 in. You will need to do a factory reset to switch the Foxsat into dual cable working. As repassac says it will be in single cable mode at the moment.

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