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I have had two Fox T2 pvrs both of which failed due to overheating but they were great during the 5 years I had them. So I bought a 5000T a week ago. After the Fox T2 it is a huge disappointment in terms of the navigation and poor quality of the large text and boxes in the menus with, in some cases duplicated text. I miss the dedicated jump forward and back buttons. I could go on and on about other shortcomings but that is enough for now.
There seems to be a fault with my unit; after it has been on for a couple of hours there are vertical striations on the right one third of the screen visible on dark areas of the picture and more so on black . Also, when the screen is black there is a gradual change of shading across the screen; blacker on the left than the right. Has anyone else had either of these faults?
Soloist.
Hi welcome to our forum. Not seen anything like the picture issue. Check your TV setup that HDMI black levels are set to normal on the HDMI input you are using. The alternative may say extended or 256 black levels.
Hi Soloist, on the jump forward or back point, just use the Right or left button beside the ok button to bring it up the time line on the screen.
Then if you press the right button it will jump forward by the pre-set time set up by you, or press the left button to jump backward in time again by the amount of your pre-set time.
The 5000t has a completely different user interface from your T2.
I think you will find that the person that designed the interface was thinking along the lines of a windows P.C. rather than the pvr interface that the T2 used.
Good Luck
Soloist – 2 hours ago »
I have had two Fox T2 pvrs both of which failed due to overheating but they were great during the 5 years I had them.
As a matter of interest; what were the failure symptoms on the HDR-FOX T2s and why do you think it was overheating?
john1 – 2 hours ago »
Hi Soloist, on the jump forward or back point, just use the Right or left button beside the ok button to bring it up the time line on the screen.
Then if you press the right button it will jump forward by the pre-set time set up by you, or press the left button to jump backward in time again by the amount of your pre-set time.
Except if you’re in timeshift mode where you get the channel list if trying to do that. You need to first press one of the playback buttons to do it.
If up/down go to the channel list can the left/right please be made to have the same behaviour as in playback mode in a future update?
Yes AJ that’s correct.
If my memory serves me correctly.
You had to do that on the T2 as well. You had to press the play button to get into the time slip mode, then the designated forward jump button.
on the 5000t,you press the play button, then the arrow right( by the ok one) button to jump forward.
It’s just a different pathway to get the same result.
Martin Liddle – 2 hours ago »
Soloist – 2 hours ago »
I have had two Fox T2 pvrs both of which failed due to overheating but they were great during the 5 years I had them.
As a matter of interest; what were the failure symptoms on the HDR-FOX T2s and why do you think it was overheating?
I’d also be interested in your answer having had to replace a hard drive in a friends machine due to excessive heat causing constant corruption and errors. I installed the CF fan control to set it to run constantly in the absence of being able to resite it with greater airflow.
john1 – 44 minutes ago »
Yes AJ that’s correct.
If my memory serves me correctly.
You had to do that on the T2 as well. You had to press the play button to get into the time slip mode, then the designated forward jump button.
on the 5000t,you press the play button, then the arrow right( by the ok one) button to jump forward.
It’s just a different pathway to get the same result.
Nope the HDR-FOX-T2 uses the same keys as used to skip forward and back in the epg to skip. The remote has a circular arrow clockwise and anti-clockwise above the colour keys on the right.
Soloist – 17 hours ago »
….. There seems to be a fault with my unit; after it has been on for a couple of hours there are vertical striations on the right one third of the screen visible on dark areas of the picture and more so on black . Also, when the screen is black there is a gradual change of shading across the screen; blacker on the left than the right. Has anyone else had either of these faults?
Soloist.
I have this on my 4000 and just accept it as yet another ‘quirk’ after the super slick HDR-Fox T2. I see them on the right if I press the Humax volume button, but it goes away once the on-screen graphic goes off. I get it on the left when you call up the channel numbers and along the bottom when you the play bar is showing, but as you say only when there are dark backgrounds.
The interface is a complete mess, its like more than one idea of how to do things have just been patched together and given the processing power of a 1980’s PC. The guide is quite good now, apart from navigation speed, but the recording menu etc just don’t match it sleekness.
I just hope and pray that Humax listen to all of these complaints and start making a decent PVR again. If they are not going to use the coloured buttons, just take them away from the remote as they are a constant reminder how how useful they used to be!
Harters – 1 hour ago » …I just hope and pray that Humax listen to all of these complaints and start making a decent PVR again. If they are not going to use the coloured buttons, just take them away from the remote as they are a constant reminder how how useful they used to be!
The problem is that in order to obtain branding/labelling permission from Freesat and Freeview, Humax have surrendered development of the s/w to those organisations, who in turn have farmed it out to a third party who in each case have clearly never developed a PVR interface before.
John 1. Thanks for the good tip re jump forward/back, it works well most of the time. I haven’t had time to find out why it sometimes fails. When it doesn’t work I stop the programme and go back to it and it works fine.
Martin Liddle and Aldaweb. I think they failed because at different times they had been used in a wooden tv cabinet with a glass front door and although there is a 65mm approx cable hole at the back there was probably not enough passage of air through the cabinet. My new 5000T sits on top of the cabinet behind the tv to avoid overheating. I replaced the fans in both Fox T2’s and the fans did not work, even when the machines were quite warm. I note with interest that the power supply in this new machine is external on the mains cable which may be Humax’s modification to avoid the overheating.
Harters. I agree. I hate the ugly large text in the unnecessarily large boxes.
Soloist.
Soloist – 15 minutes ago »
I think they failed because at different times they had been used in a wooden tv cabinet with a glass front door and although there is a 65mm approx cable hole at the back there was probably not enough passage of air through the cabinet.
Our HDR-FOX T2 has sat in a similar cabinet for six years without problem.
I replaced the fans in both Fox T2’s and the fans did not work, even when the machines were quite warm.
The Humax fan control strategy is a bit odd; the fan stays off until the hard drive reaches (I think) 55 degC and then turns on full blast. The custom firmware for the HDR-FOX T2 allows a more nuanced approach and I have the fan set to run at about 50% of full speed continuously that keeps the hard drive at a nice constant 40 degC.
Harters – 12 hours ago »
I just hope and pray that Humax listen to all of these complaints and start making a decent PVR again. If they are not going to use the coloured buttons, just take them away from the remote as they are a constant reminder how how useful they used to be!
Here, here. I’ve come from an ancient DigitalStream which while didn’t do half of what this box does, in some aspects I feel like I’ve gone backward.
Sticky pads on feet (which has helped noise), new HDMI just in case there was interference causing odd stuttering of picture, turnt down masthead amp incase (tuner overly sensitive?). A smart retune that didn’t ask for my region. A remote which is ‘clicky’ on the main buttons plus rather than having much needed buttons such as info, four arrow buttons go to the same thing. Thumbnail icons which say the recording fails if it detects black frames.
Series function where it thinks you want to watch the last episode before the first. Huge picture icons/text in places where better detail could be. Different behaviour of skip buttons in timeshift to recordings. Arrow up/down behaviour in guide. I refuse to believe most of these could not be resolved in one sweep.
In saying that there are some great features of the box and I couldn’t say I have experienced all bugs mentioned here by people. I am also comforted in that there has been a software update which I am hoping will bring more improvements!
AJ – 13 hours ago »
Harters – 12 hours ago »
I just hope and pray that Humax listen to all of these complaints and start making a decent PVR again. If they are not going to use the coloured buttons, just take them away from the remote as they are a constant reminder how how useful they used to be!
….I refuse to believe most of these could not be resolved in one sweep.
In saying that there are some great features of the box and I couldn’t say I have experienced all bugs mentioned here by people. I am also comforted in that there has been a software update which I am hoping will bring more improvements!
You may be lucky as you have the 5000, but spare a thought for us poor early adopters of the relatively short lived 4000 as I think the chance of any useful updates for us is very slim.
I feel pretty let down by the 4000 to be honest. Its a treat when we go to bed and use the far superior ‘old’ HDR-FOX T2 which we have in the bedroom. The only major advantages of the 4000 in our case is the extra tuner, all the online features I want to use are on the NowTV box which cost less than £15 and is super slick and fast!
Harters – 12 hours ago »
AJ – 13 hours ago »
Harters – 12 hours ago »
I just hope and pray that Humax listen to all of these complaints and start making a decent PVR again. If they are not going to use the coloured buttons, just take them away from the remote as they are a constant reminder how how useful they used to be!
….I refuse to believe most of these could not be resolved in one sweep.
In saying that there are some great features of the box and I couldn’t say I have experienced all bugs mentioned here by people. I am also comforted in that there has been a software update which I am hoping will bring more improvements!
You may be lucky as you have the 5000, but spare a thought for us poor early adopters of the relatively short lived 4000 as I think the chance of any useful updates for us is very slim.
I feel pretty let down by the 4000 to be honest. Its a treat when we go to bed and use the far superior ‘old’ HDR-FOX T2 which we have in the bedroom. The only major advantages of the 4000 in our case is the extra tuner, all the online features I want to use are on the NowTV box which cost less than £15 and is super slick and fast!
As for NOW-TV could be down to the reduced resolution 1280 x 720 (720p), guessing the NOW TV box outputs 720p25). Considering the ill advised postings when HD was 1440 x 1080 but backed by a much higher bitrate there may be nothing wrong with that,
I don’t have a Now TV source but suspect that the picture quality suffers.
Basically 1920 x 1080 interlaced at 25 fps (Full HD 1080i, or in the case of most Freeview-HD content 1080p25) is pretty much the same as 1280 x 720 at 50 fps (720P50). The enhanced true frame rate more than compensates for most content depending entirely on your TV/Monitor.
I assume you don’t have a large screen TV in your bedroom. If you had the limitations of 720P25 may well be much more obvious.
If you were to watch a NOW TV box on a large screen TV at the sort of distance from the TV where the extra pixels make a noticeable difference you may well have a different opinion.
4K (especially HDR) is great. But only if you can accommodate a very large TV to see the enhanced resolution (and extra brightness and colour depth from HDR). If you watch a Full-HD TV too far away you will not appreciate the extra pixels.
In respect of the 5000T software in terms of the main features, picture quality and recording reliability I don’t think you are missing very much.
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