Transferring recordings to USB without OPT+ button

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  • #16557
    Anonymous
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    Hi – I recently replaced my Humax Freeview box with a Humax HDR-1010S Freesat Freetime 1TB Receiver due to poor aerial signal in my area. I can not find a way to transfer recordings from this new box to USB which I used to do with my Freeview box. There is no OPT+ button on the remote control and no options that I can see on the menu.(I can transfer from USB to internal HDD OK)

    I hope they have not removed this option as it is the main reason for me getting this brand :-(

    Thanks in anticipation :-)

    #59172
    Barry
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    Welcome to our Forum :-)

    I’m afraid you are going to be disappointed, there is no facility to transfer recordings to usb.

    #59173
    Anonymous
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    I think this is one of freesat’s design decisions – so brand specific. The most we can hope for is a DLNA server that will let rights managed LAN clients view the material.

    #59174
    Anonymous
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    Thanks for the replies. I have today spoken to Humax who confirmed that both the newer models of their Freesat and Freeview boxes have no longer got the facility to transfer data out from the boxes. They tell me that this is the decision of 3rd party software providers but wouldn’t be pressed on the reasons why.

    The rep suggested the HB1000S as an alternative as I could attach an external drive to record on but as this does not have twin tuners it would not suit my needs. I then spoke again the my retailer about using the USB port on my current 1010S to attach an external drive to. They said this would be possible and when connected I should be given the option to record to that instead of the internal HDD! I am dubious about this working but will give it a try…unfortunately I won’t be able to do this until for a week or two as the room the box in in is being decorated, so if anyone has already tried this I would be interested to hear!

    #59175
    grahamlthompson
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    Sounds like you have been given duff information.

    There is no way afiak to record to an external hard drive on a 1010/1000s.

    Exporting recordings is possible with the older Foxsat-HDR (you can’t record directly to a usb device)

    Exporting recordings is possible with the current Freeview+ Boxes. (HDR1800T and HDR2000T – also the HDR FOX T2).

    HD recordings though will only play back on the box that recorded the content.

    It’s not possible to export with the Youview range of boxes.

    #59176
    Martin Liddle
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    thedamester – 23 minutes ago  » 

    I have today spoken to Humax who confirmed that both the newer models of their Freesat and Freeview boxes have no longer got the facility to transfer data out from the boxes.

    No that still isn’t right. The current Freeview HD models (HDR-2000T and HDR1800T) do allow transfer of SD recordings to attached USB devices. I think it is the YouView models that don’t allow transfer to USB.

    #59177
    Anonymous
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    thedamester – 1 hour ago  » 

    Thanks for the replies. I have today spoken to Humax who confirmed that both the newer models of their Freesat and Freeview boxes have no longer got the facility to transfer data out from the boxes. They tell me that this is the decision of 3rd party software providers but wouldn’t be pressed on the reasons why. !

    The reasons are pretty straightforward. The third-party software providers referred to are Freesat (owned by the BBC and ITV), and YouView (owned by BT, TalkTalk, Arqiva, the BBC, ITV, C5, and C4. It’s not in their interest to facilitate archiving of content. Disappointing for us users, but not surprising.

    #59178
    Anonymous
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    Thanks for the replies – I am even more confused now! This is taken from the product description on the John Lewis site:

    The Humax HB-1000S receiver will unlock a world of online and satellite entertainment. Enjoy hundreds of channels, many in stunning HD, as well as on-demand services like BBC iPlayer and ITV Player. The HB-1000S also has a clever roll back TV guide, so tracking down missed programmes is as easy as checking what’s on next. It’ll also pause and rewind live TV when you attach an external hard drive (available separately).

    Pause, record, rewind

    Recording your programmes is as simple as connecting an external hard drive. This also allows rewinding and pausing of live action.

    I have one of the Humax Freeview boxes which you mentioned and yes, I can export your recordings-I have had this model for some years and assumed, incorrectly that the newer Freesat one which have have just purchased would do the same! I find the info which Humax provide both on their website and manuals to be incomplete and misleading in this respect!

    #59179
    Anonymous
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    You can record to USB drive with the HB-1000S, but you can only play the recordings on the unit that recorded them. Same as a Smart TV.

    #59180
    Anonymous
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    thedamester – 39 minutes ago  » 

    ……… I find the info which Humax provide both on their website and manuals to be incomplete and misleading in this respect!

    I think that freesat authored the manual, designed the user interface and the functioality of the unit. As for the Humax website, if specifications listed what the unit could not do, the list would get very long.

    #59181
    grahamlthompson
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    thedamester – 57 minutes ago  » 

    Thanks for the replies – I am even more confused now! This is taken from the product description on the John Lewis site:

    The Humax HB-1000S receiver will unlock a world of online and satellite entertainment. Enjoy hundreds of channels, many in stunning HD, as well as on-demand services like BBC iPlayer and ITV Player. The HB-1000S also has a clever roll back TV guide, so tracking down missed programmes is as easy as checking what’s on next. It’ll also pause and rewind live TV when you attach an external hard drive (available separately).

    Pause, record, rewind

    Recording your programmes is as simple as connecting an external hard drive. This also allows rewinding and pausing of live action.

    I have one of the Humax Freeview boxes which you mentioned and yes, I can export your recordings-I have had this model for some years and assumed, incorrectly that the newer Freesat one which have have just purchased would do the same! I find the info which Humax provide both on their website and manuals to be incomplete and misleading in this respect!

    Some confusion. I thought you had a HDR1010S twin tuner Freesat+ Freetime box, not an HB1000S. The description is correct for the single tuner pvr ready HB1000S box (Box is freetime but not Freesat+).

    #59182
    Anonymous
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    Hi Graham, sorry if I confused you!

    Just to confirm, yes, I own the HDR1010S twin tuner Freesat+ Freetime box and sought advice about exporting recorded media as I have been used to doing with my older Freeview Humax box. Humax suggested the HB1000S as an alternative as I could record to an external drive as this is what the box is designed to do, they tell me, and this is borne out by the description of the HB1000S features as quoted on the John Lewis site. Humax told me that this might suit me better as I could then take the external drive away with me and plug into a laptop and watch the contents. I was doubtful about this myself as I am not sure that the format would be compatible. In my case this would not be a problem as I would not want to take the external drive away, just extract particular programs from it by temporarily attaching it to my PC where I could convert them to a more compatible format for viewing on my chosen device.

    Later I checked back with John Lewis as they had told me they would refund the cost of my HDR1010S under their Happy Customer policy and then I could purchase the HB1000S. However as the HB1000S does not have twin tuners, I would not want it as my primary recorder. I then asked the John Lewis assistant what was meant when the description of the HDR1010S which said “There are also two USB ports for media sharing and expansion.” The assistant suggested that “expansion” meant it could be used to record to and that it might be possibly to detach the external drive and use it as described above to extract media! It is this which I am sceptical about as if this was possible, Humax would surely have told me!

    #59183
    Anonymous
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    Humax suggested the HB1000S as an alternative as I could record to an external drive as this is what the box is designed to do, they tell me, and this is borne out by the description of the HB1000S features as quoted on the John Lewis site. Humax told me that this might suit me better as I could then take the external drive away with me and plug into a laptop and watch the contents.

    News to me, if true.

    #59184
    grahamlthompson
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    thedamester – 51 minutes ago  » 

    Hi Graham, sorry if I confused you!

    Just to confirm, yes, I own the HDR1010S twin tuner Freesat+ Freetime box and sought advice about exporting recorded media as I have been used to doing with my older Freeview Humax box. Humax suggested the HB1000S as an alternative as I could record to an external drive as this is what the box is designed to do, they tell me, and this is borne out by the description of the HB1000S features as quoted on the John Lewis site. Humax told me that this might suit me better as I could then take the external drive away with me and plug into a laptop and watch the contents. I was doubtful about this myself as I am not sure that the format would be compatible. In my case this would not be a problem as I would not want to take the external drive away, just extract particular programs from it by temporarily attaching it to my PC where I could convert them to a more compatible format for viewing on my chosen device.

    Later I checked back with John Lewis as they had told me they would refund the cost of my HDR1010S under their Happy Customer policy and then I could purchase the HB1000S. However as the HB1000S does not have twin tuners, I would not want it as my primary recorder. I then asked the John Lewis assistant what was meant when the description of the HDR1010S which said “There are also two USB ports for media sharing and expansion.” The assistant suggested that “expansion” meant it could be used to record to and that it might be possibly to detach the external drive and use it as described above to extract media! It is this which I am sceptical about as if this was possible, Humax would surely have told me!

    You can’t play back the recordings on anything else, despite the hard disk being usb connected. My TV has twin freeview and freesat (freetime), but you can’t connect the usb drive to anything else.

    #59185
    Anonymous
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    JamesB – 55 minutes ago  » 

    Quote:
    Humax suggested the HB1000S as an alternative as I could record to an external drive as this is what the box is designed to do, they tell me, and this is borne out by the description of the HB1000S features as quoted on the John Lewis site. Humax told me that this might suit me better as I could then take the external drive away with me and plug into a laptop and watch the contents.

    News to me, if true.

    The HB-1000S User Guide says:

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    If you choose to record you will need to dedicate a USB Hard Drive for this. Therefore once the hard drive is formatted and paired to your box it won’t be able to play recorded content on other freesat boxes or be used on computers. If you choose to reformat or unpair the USB Hard Drive from your box all your recordings will be wiped.

    http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/data/product/1379903744/HB-1000S_Manual.pdf

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