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Martin Liddle.
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February 1, 2012 at 9:36 pm #12743
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InactiveDespite setting Record End Time to 10 minutes later, my 9200 frequently ends early. Like this evening, for example. Set to record Top Gear which ended at 8pm. Missed the last minute or so. I only had one other recording scheduled this evening at 8pm on Channel 3 but as it’s got two tuners would have thought that that would not be the issue.
February 2, 2012 at 5:02 pm #30028Anonymous
InactivePerhaps I should have added ‘Can anyone suggest what to do?’
February 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm #30029Anonymous
InactiveUse Accurate Recording, it works well for me. Just ensure that your 9200 is tuned only to one transmitter. I think there are some issues of consecutive recordings when using manual padding but I’m not sure what they are because I’ve never felt the need to use it. I take your point of the two tuners but were you watching a channel on a third multiplex at the time? Sorry for being vague but I have no experience of the problems of manual padding.
February 2, 2012 at 9:13 pm #30030aldaweb
ParticipantWelcome to the forum

Could you confirm the firmware version of your 9200t and whether you’re area is pre or post DSO (digital switch over) If the latter the signal strengths have been boosted not only for your local transmitter (TX) but also nearby ones.
As Biggles says it is important that you are only receiving from one TX. have you channels in the 800s? If so it’s a sign you are receiving from more that one TX. However that normally only affects series links and accurate recordings not manually padded ones. Is your extra 10 minutes set for every recording (in time settings) or just added to Top Gear manully? Padding is dropped for some consecutive recordings.
To check if both tuners are working Ok tune to 2 channels from different mutiplexes using PIP eg BBC1 and Dave.
If you were watching a third channel from a different multiplex (MUX) as Biggles posits then I would have expected you to have seen a “channel restricted due to recording message” as soon as the second recording was due to start. See FAQ item Which Channels Can I Watch While Recording 2 Others?
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Why do I get Channel Restricted due to Recording(link)
February 3, 2012 at 7:58 am #30031Anonymous
InactiveMany thanks for the responses. I can’t comment whether or not it was viewing a third channel as it’s possible that we weren’t watching any TV at the time! Good point, though.
We are post-DSO (Central region).
I have no channels in the 800 region….had to do a manual scan as we kept picking up a load of Welsh channels!!!
Am on latest version of the software.
Padding is set to apply to all recordings.
Since posting, I have gone over to Accurate Recording and test recordings seem fine and so I will stick with that. Downside is, of course, if the broadcasters overrun but without amending the End signal time. (if I understand the way these things works correctly).
February 3, 2012 at 9:00 am #30032Anonymous
Inactivecountryman – 1 day ago »
Despite setting Record End Time to 10 minutes later, my 9200 frequently ends early. Like this evening, for example. Set to record Top Gear which ended at 8pm. Missed the last minute or so. I only had one other recording scheduled this evening at 8pm on Channel 3 but as it’s got two tuners would have thought that that would not be the issue.
One solution is to edit one of the timers so that the core recording time for both programmes overlap by a minute.
The 9200 does drop the padding if it is only the padding that causes the overlap. By making sure that the core recording times overlap the padding will be kept and both tuners will be used.
Accurate recording can also trigger off a similar issue when there is an overrun or an early start. The solution I use is to record the repeat of one of the programmes so that my schedule does not contain any consecutive AR recordings.
February 3, 2012 at 10:29 am #30033Anonymous
Inactivecountryman – 2 hours ago »
Many thanks for the responses. I can’t comment whether or not it was viewing a third channel as it’s possible that we weren’t watching any TV at the time! Good point, though.
We are post-DSO (Central region).
I have no channels in the 800 region….had to do a manual scan as we kept picking up a load of Welsh channels!!!
Am on latest version of the software.
Padding is set to apply to all recordings.
Since posting, I have gone over to Accurate Recording and test recordings seem fine and so I will stick with that. Downside is, of course, if the broadcasters overrun but without amending the End signal time.If a (if I understand the way these things works correctly).
When doing a Manual Search it is important that you delete all old channels first otherwise you may end up still receiving from two transmitters. My Manual Search instructions are on this forum somewhere but if you need them I will re-post.
If a programme overruns past any padding applied to a manual timer then there is no chance of the end time being extended unless you are there at the time. As far as I can remember I have never had a recording stop before the end of the programme when using Accurate Recording on a channel that supports it. My experience from tests and everyday recording is that a recording stops at the start of the following programme.
February 3, 2012 at 4:10 pm #30034Anonymous
InactiveThanks guys…very helpful suggestions. I’m going to stick on Accurate Recording from now on.
February 3, 2012 at 5:53 pm #30035aldaweb
ParticipantBiggles – 7 hours ago »
countryman – 2 hours ago »
Padding is set to apply to all recordings.
You can pad timers individually from the recording list menu if you want to be sure of a single programme.
Since posting, I have gone over to Accurate Recording and test recordings seem fine and so I will stick with that. Downside is, of course, if the broadcasters overrun but without amending the End signal time.If a (if I understand the way these things works correctly).
As far as I can remember I have never had a recording stop before the end of the programme when using Accurate Recording on a channel that supports it. My experience from tests and everyday recording is that a recording stops at the start of the following programme.
I have had missing ends of programmes particularly on BBC in December not just on the hummy but also on my VM Tivo with padding set!
where the only way to get the end was to resort to BBC iPlayer
February 3, 2012 at 10:06 pm #30036Anonymous
InactiveInteresting. This evening had my 9200 and also the Vestel …both set for accurate recording…to record the same programme (Hustle). The Vestel start time was spot on but the Hummy lost the first 5-6 seconds. Why would that be as I’m assuming that they are both starting off the same signal. On other test recordings I’ve done on the Hummy, the start times have seemed OK.
February 3, 2012 at 11:38 pm #30037Martin Liddle
Participantcountryman – 1 hour ago »
Interesting. This evening had my 9200 and also the Vestel …both set for accurate recording…to record the same programme (Hustle). The Vestel start time was spot on but the Hummy lost the first 5-6 seconds.
This has been done to death in the past. Extensive and thorough testing suggests that the 9200 starts later than a Vestel by a random amount typically up to 10 seconds but sometimes greater. The 9150/9300 behaved similarly up to software version 1.00.23 but 1.00.26 was intended to improve the behaviour but I haven’t seen any reliable test results. My supposition is that the 9200 polls to check for a change in the running status at an interval of typically something like 10s unless it is busy when the poll interval increases.
For the record the later HD models do a much better job with accurate recording.
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