Freeview retunes early 2018

[Anonymous]

Yes everyone I look closely at what signals are being received and switch to DVB T2 when necessary.

I will give it another go tonight and I refer to the Winter Hill webpage where the channel is supposed to be now.

Its listed on COM 7 Band 31

Im not getting COM 8 on a lower power but not missing anything on that

[grahamlthompson]

Minstrel SE – 42 minutes ago  » 

Im not getting COM 8 on a lower power but not missing anything on that

Yes you are. BBC 4 HD has moved to COM 8. The internet information hasn’t caught up yet. If you want to continue watching you may need to improve your aerial

http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/news/item184

What does the DTG (detailed view) say about your COM 8 reception ?

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/operations/about_the_coverage_checker

[Anonymous]

Minstrel SE – 1 hour ago  » I refer to the Winter Hill webpage where the channel is supposed to be now.

Based on past performance you may have to wait a few years for some unofficial Winter Hill webpage to catch up.

For what is on each mux see http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/channels/channel_listings for a list that continues to be kept up to date.

[grahamlthompson]

Luke – 5 minutes ago  » 

Minstrel SE – 1 hour ago  » I refer to the Winter Hill webpage where the channel is supposed to be now.

Based on past performance you may have to wait a few years for some unofficial Winter Hill webpage to catch up.

For what is on each mux see http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/channels/channel_listings for a list that continues to be kept up to date.

Except that in this case it is also out of date

106 BBC FOUR HD HD COM7 HD

[grahamlthompson]

http://www.a516digital.com/2018/01/freeview-changes-for-bbc-four-hd-and.html

Transmission of BBC 4 HD on COM 7 ceased 17th January 2018. Following dual broadcasting from the 11th January 2018. This applies to all UK transmitters with COM7/8.

[Anonymous]

Minstrel SE, it’s worth noting that even if you cannot receive BBC4-HD on it’s new mux (COM8), you can always watch BBC4 programmes in HD on iPlayer, both live and catch-up.

Granted it’s not the ideal solution, (I know iPlayer is 720p rather than 1080i/p) but better than nothing if you really want to watch in HD rather than SD.

[Anonymous]

grahamlthompson – 13 hours ago  » 

http://www.a516digital.com/2018/01/freeview-changes-for-bbc-four-hd-and.html

Transmission of BBC 4 HD on COM 7 ceased 17th January 2018. Following dual broadcasting from the 11th January 2018. This applies to all UK transmitters with COM7/8.

BBC4 HD is still transmitting here from COM7 on the Oxford transmitter. That is, it is still found on a channel scan even if it may not be transmitting its usual programming. Keeping an eye on this as the dual transmission appears to have been screwing up my old Digitalstream PVR (and reportedly other devices) so I am keeping COM7 off my box and waiting until it fully ceases plus a week before scanning for COM7 again. My BT Youview PVR is handling the dual transmission without problems.

[Anonymous]

Oh Yes Im confused now. It was on 31 and now its gone. I was confused for a moment thinking it had moved to 31.

So wherever its gone I cant pick up here. If its gone to Com 8 I cant pick up Com 8.

Is there are reason I cant pick up Com 8 as I dont think the aerial has ever picked it up

This is so frustrating

[grahamlthompson]

Minstrel SE – 7 minutes ago  » 

Oh Yes Im confused now. It was on 31 and now its gone. I was confused for a moment thinking it had moved to 31.

So wherever its gone I cant pick up here. If its gone to Com 8 I cant pick up Com 8.

Is there are reason I cant pick up Com 8 as I dont think the aerial has ever picked up Com 8.

This is so frustrating

Start by posting the detailed reception prediction.

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/operations/about_the_coverage_checker

Do you know what type of aerial you have ? Depending on the type of aerial you have the current COM 8 frequency may be right at the limit or even out of group.

See the typical gain curves here

http://www.aerialsandtv.com/gaincurves.html

[Anonymous]

The aerial has been up since 2000 and Ive no idea if its ever been upgraded to cope with new demands.

I get zero signal on channel 37 so I can only assume the aerial is not the right type.

Bye Bye BBC 4 HD it was nice knowing you Ive got 100? channels of rubbish and they move one of the channels I do care about

[grahamlthompson]

Minstrel SE – 41 minutes ago  » 

The aerial has been up since 2000 and Ive no idea if its ever been upgraded to cope with new demands.

I get zero signal on channel 37 so I can only assume the aerial is not the right type.

Bye Bye BBC 4 HD it was nice knowing you Ive got 100? channels of rubbish and they move one of the channels I do care about

If you post the information asked for it may be possible to get some ideas. Without this it’s pure speculation.

You might get them back when when they move to UHF 56 and 57, without some help from you how would we know ?

You keep asking impossible questions without providing any sort of clue as to reception where you live.

You might even have some sort of filter in your setup that’s blanking UHF 37 for instance. You could try connecting your box by a scart cable and removing the HDMI cable to see if that fixes the problem.

[Anonymous]

Im asking impossible questions because Im mainly venting off. I am supposed to get full coverage in the Macclesfield area.

I wouldnt know a band A aerial from a band K aerial and I dont own the aerial or have access to it so again Im venting off. I may pop my own globe aerial up with my run of cable

To vent off again would you not agree that all this channel moving is beyond acceptable. Im also venting off that if we didnt have so much rubbish on the arqiva and other multiplexes then BBC 4 could be moved somewhere better.

PSB 1: Operated by the BBC in SD carrying BBC TV and radio channels

PSB 2: Operated by Digital 3&4 in SD and carrying a mix of ITV and Channel 4 channels

PSB 3: Operated by the BBC in HD and carrying a mix of PSB HD channels

COM 4: Operated by SDN in SD

COM 5: Operated by Arqiva in SD

COM 6: Operated by Arqiva in SD

COM 7: Operated by Arqiva with mixed SD and HD services

COM 8: Operated by Arqiva with mixed SD and HD services.

I pay a licence fee and I want to see BBC run multiplexes with solely BBC channels. What I dont need is trash channels. we could free up bandwidth by dumping many of the standard definition channels. I delete them anyway.

Would you not agree it seems to be a mess of operators, too many channels and power games in selling off bands

BBC 4 HD on Com 7 has never missed a beat and now I dont have it…too right Im venting off

Oh and in March Com 8 is supposed to be moving from 37 to 31 so I may get it then. All I know now is channel 37 is not there on my installation list of active channels

[Anonymous]

I suppose the BBC would argue that you still have access to BBC4 in SD, and that’s all they have to legally provide, and as I mentioned above, you can access BBC4 in HD via iPlayer, both for live tv watching and catch-up.

However, I do agree with what you’re saying and over the years have been an extremely frustrated Freeview user myself. That’s why I invested in Freesat, which gives you all the channels and updates any channel moves or changes automatically.

[grahamlthompson]

Minstrel SE – 9 hours ago  » 

Im asking impossible questions because Im mainly venting off. I am supposed to get full coverage in the Macclesfield area.

I wouldnt know a band A aerial from a band K aerial and I dont own the aerial or have access to it so again Im venting off. I may pop my own globe aerial up with my run of cable

To vent off again would you not agree that all this channel moving is beyond acceptable. Im also venting off that if we didnt have so much rubbish on the arqiva and other multiplexes then BBC 4 could be moved somewhere better.

PSB 1: Operated by the BBC in SD carrying BBC TV and radio channels

PSB 2: Operated by Digital 3&4 in SD and carrying a mix of ITV and Channel 4 channels

PSB 3: Operated by the BBC in HD and carrying a mix of PSB HD channels

COM 4: Operated by SDN in SD

COM 5: Operated by Arqiva in SD

COM 6: Operated by Arqiva in SD

COM 7: Operated by Arqiva with mixed SD and HD services

COM 8: Operated by Arqiva with mixed SD and HD services.

I pay a licence fee and I want to see BBC run multiplexes with solely BBC channels. What I dont need is trash channels. we could free up bandwidth by dumping many of the standard definition channels. I delete them anyway.

Would you not agree it seems to be a mess of operators, too many channels and power games in selling off bands

BBC 4 HD on Com 7 has never missed a beat and now I dont have it…too right Im venting off

Oh and in March Com 8 is supposed to be moving from 37 to 31 so I may get it then. All I know now is channel 37 is not there on my installation list of active channels

The issue is the UK government who are selling of the 700MHz band for mobile comms.

If you have a communal aerial then you are paying for the priviledge.

Guessing at some time in the past a old notch filter has been left in circuit.

You should get your services management company to put it right. Had you imparted this kernel of information a long time ago it would have saved a lot of pointless argument.

Whoever is is responsible for the setup may be entitled to help under the 700MHz clearance arrangements.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0022/106933/700mhz-clearance-timescale-review.pdf

You might want to contact OFCOM directly.

[Anonymous]

Minstrel SE – 12 hours ago  » 

Im asking impossible questions because Im mainly venting off. I am supposed to get full coverage in the Macclesfield area.

I wouldnt know a band A aerial from a band K aerial and I dont own the aerial or have access to it so again Im venting off. I may pop my own globe aerial up with my run of cable

To vent off again would you not agree that all this channel moving is beyond acceptable. Im also venting off that if we didnt have so much rubbish on the arqiva and other multiplexes then BBC 4 could be moved somewhere better.

PSB 1: Operated by the BBC in SD carrying BBC TV and radio channels

PSB 2: Operated by Digital 3&4 in SD and carrying a mix of ITV and Channel 4 channels

PSB 3: Operated by the BBC in HD and carrying a mix of PSB HD channels

COM 4: Operated by SDN in SD

COM 5: Operated by Arqiva in SD

COM 6: Operated by Arqiva in SD

COM 7: Operated by Arqiva with mixed SD and HD services

COM 8: Operated by Arqiva with mixed SD and HD services.

I pay a licence fee and I want to see BBC run multiplexes with solely BBC channels. What I dont need is trash channels. we could free up bandwidth by dumping many of the standard definition channels. I delete them anyway.

Would you not agree it seems to be a mess of operators, too many channels and power games in selling off bands

BBC 4 HD on Com 7 has never missed a beat and now I dont have it…too right Im venting off

Oh and in March Com 8 is supposed to be moving from 37 to 31 so I may get it then. All I know now is channel 37 is not there on my installation list of active channels

So pray tell how would you suggest we watch BBC regional output given the beeb do not transmit regional output on HD. Regional output for most is SD only.

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