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July 20, 2016 at 10:19 pm #25675
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InactiveAnyone know if there is a similar issue with the 9150? Despite the lack of a clock! I assume it still has an RTC circuit? It’s just that some symptoms resemble those in a newly acquired 9150 that generally seems perfect. Full epg, responsive, you can record live programmes and play back, buffer etc.
But when you try timer record (from standby or while on) the prog will not record, and the record schedule is wiped. When trying from standby, it lights up, outputs audio and responds to the remote. No video till power is cycled though.
I tried another AV drive, same result. No visible power supply ageing (bulging or leaky capacitors). No signal or multiple transmitter issues. Drives formatted and defaults selected.
I know these boxes are even older than this thread, but I love them as radio recorders. I still haven’t found a current box that equals their versatility and usability for audio.
July 21, 2016 at 7:06 am #25676Anonymous
InactiveIt will definitely have an RTC circuit, so there’s every chance that it’s prone to the same problem.
Note that the capacitors used in the PSU will probably show no physical signs of failure.
July 21, 2016 at 9:34 am #25677Anonymous
Inactivewoodface7 – 10 hours ago »
Anyone know if there is a similar issue with the 9150? Despite the lack of a clock! I assume it still has an RTC circuit? It’s just that some symptoms resemble those in a newly acquired 9150 that generally seems perfect. Full epg, responsive, you can record live programmes and play back, buffer etc.
But when you try timer record (from standby or while on) the prog will not record, and the record schedule is wiped. When trying from standby, it lights up, outputs audio and responds to the remote. No video till power is cycled though.
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In the 9200 the RTC is updated from the broadcast channel when the machine is ON so I expect the 9150 to be the same although the RTC circuit may be different. The fact that your 9150 doesn’t do a timer record when ON suggests the problem lies elsewhere. You say the record schedule is wiped, this is a known problem of recent years with the 9300 and probably the 9150. Are other settings in the machine set back to defaults, 9300 owners have reported the machines appear to have had a Default Setting.
July 21, 2016 at 10:15 am #25678Martin Liddle
Participantwoodface7 – 11 hours ago »
But when you try timer record (from standby or while on) the prog will not record, and the record schedule is wiped. When trying from standby, it lights up, outputs audio and responds to the remote. No video till power is cycled though.
Could you clarify “When trying from standby”; what is being tried?
July 21, 2016 at 7:35 pm #25679Anonymous
InactiveTrying to achieve a timer recording.
July 22, 2016 at 2:51 pm #25680Anonymous
InactiveMany thanks all who have responded. I’ve spent hours doing test recordings and settings adjustments.
First thing to note is that timer recordings which begin while the box is on DO record and don’t wipe the rec schedule. The previous failure must have been a one-off.
Biggles may be onto the answer with the 9300 ‘return to default’ bug. After a standby, it does indeed wipe my settings for aspect ratio, skip times, Rec schedule etc. (Just switching the box to Standby is enough to reset to defaults and wipe the Rec Schedule. It doesn’t require a failed timed recording.) Did they come up with an solution on the 9300?
As to the RTC, what should I conclude from the fact that the set always comes on at the programmed time, yet fails to start recording, just outputting audio? (Audio of the channel it had been tuned to, not the channel I set to record, btw).
It has clearly remembered the time – and suggests whatever wiping goes on, happens at startup rather than at switch off or the time in between. RTC exonerated???
To add to the fun, I have now found that sometimes it WILL perform a timer recording. This occurred twice after I speculatively changed the ‘Power Saving In Standby’ to ‘On’ from the default ‘Off’. Sadly, it mostly doesn’t work, and I can’t find any pattern as to why.
Thanks again for your suggestions. I hope you can generate some more with the new info.
July 22, 2016 at 4:46 pm #25681Martin Liddle
Participantwoodface7 – 1 hour ago »
Did they come up with an solution on the 9300?
The only workaround that I am aware of is not to put the box into standby.
As to the RTC, what should I conclude from the fact that the set always comes on at the programmed time, yet fails to start recording, just outputting audio?
I wouldn’t have expected it to output anything if it has woken up to do a recording.
It has clearly remembered the time – and suggests whatever wiping goes on, happens at startup rather than at switch off or the time in between. RTC exonerated???
Yes I agree with both points.
February 18, 2017 at 3:20 pm #25682Anonymous
InactiveSorry – bit late to the party here! Anyway, I have a couple of 9200s which a while ago started to exhibit this problem with the clock in standby. I’m quite happy to have a go at effecting this fix, but I was wondering if it would be possible for the OP (or someone else) to post some photos illustrating exactly what needs cleaning? A picture paints a thousand words and all that…
Cheers,
3g
February 18, 2017 at 6:11 pm #25683Anonymous
Inactive3guesses – 2 hours ago »
Sorry – bit late to the party here! Anyway, I have a couple of 9200s which a while ago started to exhibit this problem with the clock in standby. I’m quite happy to have a go at effecting this fix, but I was wondering if it would be possible for the OP (or someone else) to post some photos illustrating exactly what needs cleaning? A picture paints a thousand words and all that…
Cheers,
3g
I found this site a couple of years ago and thought ‘what a coincidence him coming up with my findings’ but after ‘having a word’ with him he did link to the original DigitalSpy thread also linked here in the FAQ. I thought my description of the area to be cleaned was fairly clear but the linked site does have photos which you might find useful. Use ordinary household meths for the cleaning, the purple stuff. All the best, I still use my 9200.
May 9, 2019 at 9:44 am #25684Anonymous
InactiveWhen my T1010 died recently (temporarily, fortunately) I reactivated my old 9200T. This has had the clock problem occur several times in the past, but it turned on and worked perfectly after a long period of inaction. Maybe the clock track contamination can eventually be cured by cleaning the area over and over. I used Isopropyl alcohol the last time. If you still have your 9200T, this might give you hope
May 9, 2019 at 10:05 am #25685Anonymous
InactiveSteveZ – 11 minutes ago »
When my T1010 died recently (temporarily, fortunately) I reactivated my old 9200T. This has had the clock problem occur several times in the past, but it turned on and worked perfectly after a long period of inaction. Maybe the clock track contamination can eventually be cured by cleaning the area over and over. I used Isopropyl alcohol the last time. If you still have your 9200T, this might give you hope

My 9200 is still in limited use but with no clock display at the moment. When I get round to cleaning the board I may install an earlier version of software as I think this will get rid of the annoying delay to remote commands.
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