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Many apologies, I’m a newb just here to ask your advice. I currently use an Humax T1000 Youview 500gb but it has become incredibly slow to navigate since the recent software update and the BBC iPlayer has just started quitting unexpectedly before playing any programmes. I need to get another box but I need some recommendations. These are my priorities:
– a cast iron iPlayer app that works and will continue to work for the next 2-3 years. (Since my Panasonic smart TV can no longer run iPlayer because of Capitalism and Inbuilt Obsolescence).
– As little lag as possible between pressing a button on the remote and the action happening. I hate that pregnant pause waiting for the channel to change or the cursor to move around the EPG.
– A way to access the videos on my NAS – a QNAP which currently streams to my Panasonic TV (using er…DNLA or something).
– All the usual recording capabilities. A method to transfer them off the box would be a bonus.
The spec of the FVP-5000T would seem to fit the bill but I’m put off but reports of sluggish UI and unreliable units. What would you recommend?
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Have you tried a soft reset and/or maintenance mode rest on your YV unit?
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Resetting the software has improved performance of the box and iPlayer seems to work now, thanks Barry!
I’d still be keen to hear what users think of the FVP-5000T.
sirdavy – 1 day ago »
Resetting the software has improved performance of the box and iPlayer seems to work now, thanks Barry!
I’d still be keen to hear what users think of the FVP-5000T.
FVP 5000T – To much emphasis is reported re the speed of this unit to be honest, comparisons to older units is ridiculous, this is a completely new UI (4000T excepted) Reports that the recordings list takes 3 seconds to appear are laughable – 3 seconds I ask you.
The advantages far outweigh any shortcomings.
The unit I have has so far not missed a beat – often have 4 test simultaneous timers recording, to that end I have auto delete enabled, and this works as expected.
Barry has hit it in one. We have a 2 TB model and are really pleased with it. Once you get used to the new ui, it Ticks all the boxes.
Over the Christmas period we recorded 37 programmes including 4 at the sane time on more than one occasions without a problem.
Our recorded programmes are show in list mode, and come up on the screen almost immediately .
Apart from the 4000t I’m not aware of another Freeview Play recorder with the same capabilities on the market.
The reproduction of both audio, & visual on recordings are superb.
Barry – 1 day ago » FVP 5000T – To much emphasis is reported re the speed of this unit to be honest, comparisons to older units is ridiculous, this is a completely new UI (4000T excepted) Reports that the recordings list takes 3 seconds to appear are laughable – 3 seconds I ask you.
Well, we don’t buy PVRs to admire the recordings list, we buy them to actually play the recorded programs and that takes a minimum of 17 seconds (on the rare occasions when the dedicated “recorded programs” button actually works first time). And that timing only holds true for the first few items in the “recorded programs” list. It takes an average of 25 seconds before the programs at the bottom of the list can be accessed and played – and my list is only a quarter full!
Just remind yourself what 17 – 25 seconds looks like in real time:
https://www.online-stopwatch.com/
and you’ll see that the only “laughable” thing here is that in 2018 a PVR takes 17 – 25 seconds and 3 or 4 button presses to do what my 2013 Humax PVR9150T did in 2 seconds and 2 button pushes.
But I can certainly see why you shy away from comparisons.
Marius – 6 minutes ago »
Barry – 1 day ago » FVP 5000T – To much emphasis is reported re the speed of this unit to be honest, comparisons to older units is ridiculous, this is a completely new UI (4000T excepted) Reports that the recordings list takes 3 seconds to appear are laughable – 3 seconds I ask you.
Well, we don’t buy PVRs to admire the recordings list, we buy them to actually play the recorded programs and that takes a minimum of 17 seconds (on the rare occasions when the dedicated “recorded programs” button actually works first time). And that timing only holds true for the first few items in the “recorded programs” list. It takes an average of 25 seconds before the programs at the bottom of the list can be accessed and played – and my list is only a quarter full!
Just remind yourself what 17 – 25 seconds looks like in real time:
https://www.online-stopwatch.com/
and you’ll see that the only “laughable” thing here is that in 2018 a PVR takes 17 – 25 seconds and 3 or 4 button presses to do what my 2013 Humax PVR9150T did in 2 seconds and 2 button pushes.
But I can certainly see why you shy away from comparisons.
I currently have 235 recordings. To get from the top to the last took 8 seconds. However a sort capability on reverse date/time would be appreciated. It’s not a very realistic thing to do. I can’t remember the last time I wanted to find the oldest. Normally looking for a specific recording so CHANNEL or DAY OF THE WEEK is handy.
To play the first recording from pressing recordings took 10 seconds.
I wonder just how many recordings Marius has.
As 235 recordings on the List that Graham has only took 10 seconds.
Per haps Marius should really come back to the real world.
or does he take a deep breath first, just to see how many numbers he can get to before taking another one.
john1 – 51 seconds ago »
I wonder just how many recordings Marius has.
As 235 recordings on the List that Graham has only took 10 seconds.
Per haps Marius should really come back to the real world.
or does he take a deep breath first, just to see how many numbers he can get to before taking another one.
No idea. It’s not a reasonable thing to do. The better half and I usually take longer to decide what we want to watch next, rather than the time it takes to locate it and play it back
exactly. for someone who claims to actually like the box,
but only submits post to moan about it, only proves that he made a mistake actually buying the box in the first place but won’t accept it.
my final question is Does he like it, or not ?
perhaps it’s time to let people with genuine questions and Queries to get some help from this forum.
john1 – 3 minutes ago »
perhaps it’s time to let people with genuine questions and Queries to get some help from this forum.
Hear hear
To be honest the whinging posts are starting to become tiresome, and at times suspicious to say the least.
grahamlthompson – 10 hours ago » I currently have 235 recordings. To get from the top to the last took 8 seconds.
Then our experience of the recorded programs list is identical as I wrote: “And that [17 second] timing only holds true for the first few items in the “recorded programs” list. It takes an average of 25 seconds before the programs at the bottom of the list can be accessed and played”.
The difference between 17 seconds (for the top programs) and 25 seconds (for the bottom programs) is the 8 seconds (give or take a second) accounted for by scrolling through the list.
john1 – 9 hours ago » for someone who claims to actually like the box, but only submits post to moan about it, only proves that he made a mistake actually buying the box in the first place but won’t accept it.
my final question is Does he like it, or not ?
If I thought buying the 5000T was a mistake it would be a simple matter to return it Argos and get a complete refund.
I’ve been more than fair in my comments about the product’s excellent reliability and picture quality. But that doesn’t mean that I don’t get frustrated when Barry (or you, for that matter) make specious excuses for its appalling and quite unnecessarily slow performance, which could and should have been cured by upgrading the 5000T’s processor and memory before it was even put on sale.
Why ruin what could have been a really first-rate product for the sake of a few pounds? It makes no sense at all.
Barry – 9 hours ago »
To be honest the whinging posts are starting to become tiresome, and at times suspicious to say the least.
I’m sorry you find my occasional frustration “suspicious”. My comments are simply the result of my daily usage of the 5000T and I go out of my way to be fair and objective. I haven’t, for example, edited the gushing comments I initially made in the “First Impressions” thread when I was still in the honeymoon phase. And I’ve kept my observations “in the family” as it were, and resisted the temptation to air them on Amazon, where I’m a trusted reviewer. Why? Because as I’ve said, I was extremely well pleased with my previous Humax PVR and I wish the company well and want to see it succeed.
But that’s also why I post the robust feedback that you characterise as “whinging”. For years I wanted to upgrade my last PVR for a Freeview HD model, but all the existing Humax PVRs had such terrible reviews that I waited for what seemed like a brand new product – little realising that it was nothing more than a tarted-up 4000T under the bonnet.
That’s the real reason for my frustration. With a little more testing, foresight and willingness to upgrade hardware, the 5000T could have been a killer product. It’s such a missed opportunity and that’s a very great shame indeed.
Maybe someone at Humax will hear my “whinges” and do better next time. I live in hope.
I totally agree with this quote “… appalling and quite unnecessarily slow performance, which could and should have been cured by upgrading the 5000T’s processor and memory before it was even put on sale…” from Marius.
I was prepared to ‘upgrade’ my 4000 to a 5000 if the reviews proved that speed improvements had been made, but it’s obvious they haven’t, therefore I will not change it until a proper upgraded model is released. If they had made speed improvements it would make all the additional key presses that need to be done and lack of an ‘i’ button more bearable.
As Marius has said I cannot faulty the picture quality and reliability of recordings and the 3rd tuner is brilliant, they just need to go back and take a long hard look at the fast & slick interface of the ‘older’ HDR-Fox T2.
Sorry if you think I am whinging too, but I think all of the above are not unreasonable. I have not known a newly released model of say a TV to have worse performance than the model it replaced. The same goes for cars, new models are always full of performance improvements so why should Humax be any different?
IF Marius really is a trusted reviewer on Amazon,
He should know that in their terms, most of his remarks on here would not have been posted at all.
So I give no credence to that point whatsoever.
Marius – 6 hours ago »
grahamlthompson – 10 hours ago » I currently have 235 recordings. To get from the top to the last took 8 seconds.
Then our experience of the recorded programs list is identical as I wrote: “And that [17 second] timing only holds true for the first few items in the “recorded programs” list. It takes an average of 25 seconds before the programs at the bottom of the list can be accessed and played”.
The difference between 17 seconds (for the top programs) and 25 seconds (for the bottom programs) is the 8 seconds (give or take a second) accounted for by scrolling through the list.
john1 – 9 hours ago » for someone who claims to actually like the box, but only submits post to moan about it, only proves that he made a mistake actually buying the box in the first place but won’t accept it.
my final question is Does he like it, or not ?
If I thought buying the 5000T was a mistake it would be a simple matter to return it Argos and get a complete refund.
I’ve been more than fair in my comments about the product’s excellent reliability and picture quality. But that doesn’t mean that I don’t get frustrated when Barry (or you, for that matter) make specious excuses for its appalling and quite unnecessarily slow performance, which could and should have been cured by upgrading the 5000T’s processor and memory before it was even put on sale.
Why ruin what could have been a really first-rate product for the sake of a few pounds? It makes no sense at all.
Barry – 9 hours ago »
To be honest the whinging posts are starting to become tiresome, and at times suspicious to say the least.
I’m sorry you find my occasional frustration “suspicious”. My comments are simply the result of my daily usage of the 5000T and I go out of my way to be fair and objective. I haven’t, for example, edited the gushing comments I initially made in the “First Impressions” thread when I was still in the honeymoon phase. And I’ve kept my observations “in the family” as it were, and resisted the temptation to air them on Amazon, where I’m a trusted reviewer. Why? Because as I’ve said, I was extremely well pleased with my previous Humax PVR and I wish the company well and want to see it succeed.
But that’s also why I post the robust feedback that you characterise as “whinging”. For years I wanted to upgrade my last PVR for a Freeview HD model, but all the existing Humax PVRs had such terrible reviews that I waited for what seemed like a brand new product – little realising that it was nothing more than a tarted-up 4000T under the bonnet.
That’s the real reason for my frustration. With a little more testing, foresight and willingness to upgrade hardware, the 5000T could have been a killer product. It’s such a missed opportunity and that’s a very great shame indeed.
Maybe someone at Humax will hear my “whinges” and do better next time. I live in hope.
I takes me 8 seconds to repeatedly press the CH down key to get from the top of the recordings list to the bottom. It will of course take a lot longer one channel at a time which I suspect is what you are doing. It will of course take longer to read each page of the list, but that’s down to you not the box response.
Same applies to the epg (You can immediately jump to any line by tapping in the channel number. The favourites on a Harmony remote makes the jump while in the epg.
Perhaps you should investigate the available shortcuts.
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