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grahamlthompson – 5 hours ago »
I takes me 8 seconds to repeatedly press the CH down key to get from the top of the recordings list to the bottom. It will of course take a lot longer one channel at a time which I suspect is what you are doing. It will of course take longer to read each page of the list, but that’s down to you not the box response.
Same applies to the epg (You can immediately jump to any line by tapping in the channel number. The favourites on a Harmony remote makes the jump while in the epg.
Perhaps you should investigate the available shortcuts.
With respect, graham, I think you’ve got hold of the wrong end of the stick.
I wrote: “The difference between 17 seconds (for the top programs) and 25 seconds (for the bottom programs) is the 8 seconds (give or take a second) accounted for by scrolling through the list.”
I was agreeing with you that it takes 7 or 8 seconds to scroll from top to bottom of the recorded programs list.
And to achieve that speed I was of course using the page up/down button. It’s not a function I use much on my PC which is why I was grateful to Barry for pointing it out to me in this post:
https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/playing-recorded-programmmes-in-the-5000t#post-62057
Harters – 7 hours ago »
I totally agree with this quote “… appalling and quite unnecessarily slow performance, which could and should have been cured by upgrading the 5000T’s processor and memory before it was even put on sale…” from Marius.
Many thanks for your support, Harters. I’m frankly astonished at the hostility aroused by this observation which is nothing more than simple common sense and in no way meant as a general attack on Humax as a company. I waited many years for Humax to bring out a new product precisely because I had such an high opinion of my last Humax PVR.
john1 – 6 hours ago »
IF Marius really is a trusted reviewer on Amazon,
He should know that in their terms, most of his remarks on here would not have been posted at all.
So I give no credence to that point whatsoever.
I can’t imagine which “remarks” you mean but even if that were true your observation is entirely devoid of logic.
Why would I feel bound or constrained by Amazon’s “terms” when posting on a internet forum that has nothing whatever to do with Amazon?
Thanks to everyone for their comments so far. Clearly the operating speed of the 5000T is a controversial matter of debate but I am just going to assume that it is faster than my current T1000.
Could anyone vouch for the 5000T’s ability to play media – actually just video really – from a NAS? Does it work straight out of the box and without constant tinkering? Does it baulk at playing MKV format?
I’ve seen quite a few references to the FOX T2 being a good box but it’s an old piece of technology, isn’t it? I think it does all the things I want – iplayer/DNLA etc – but surely it’s not worth me buying something that will soon be obsolete?
sirdavy – 8 hours ago »
Thanks to everyone for their comments so far. Clearly the operating speed of the 5000T is a controversial matter of debate but I am just going to assume that it is faster than my current T1000.
Could anyone vouch for the 5000T’s ability to play media – actually just video really – from a NAS? Does it work straight out of the box and without constant tinkering? Does it baulk at playing MKV format?
I’ve seen quite a few references to the FOX T2 being a good box but it’s an old piece of technology, isn’t it? I think it does all the things I want – iplayer/DNLA etc – but surely it’s not worth me buying something that will soon be obsolete?
I wouldnt assume anything about the 5000. My mother in law has a 2000 which I believe is the later version of the 1000 and that has the same slick interface as the HDR FOX-T2 and it therefore has a quicker interface than the 5000.
I have the 4000 and it plays video files of all different kinds from my iMac upstairs and it plays them perfectly without any kind of ‘tinkering’ I use powerline connectors for a stutty/lag free playback.
The HDR FOX-T2 maybe the older model and not and sale anymore, but its by no means obsolete. Unless you need the 3rd tuner and catch up services, the HDR FOX-T2 is a much better bet IMHO.
As I have said before, the 4000/5000 are good boxes, but are woefully underspecced performance wise.
For the avoidance of any doubt.
2000 will be the HDR 2000T therefore freeview +
T1000 is YouView
FVP 4000/5000T is Freeview Play – new concept, no comparison with any other Humax unit.
Edit:
Had a quick look see at 5000T review ratings on a few high street outlets:
Argos – 4.5/5.0 stars
Currys – 8.5/10 stars
JL (looks to be out of stock now) – 4.5/5.0 stars
Not sure why you are keeping up the ridiculous position of not being able to compare the 4/5000T to earlier boxes other than because you know the position is indefensible.
Compared to the T2 (a PVR), the 4/5000T (a PVR which also does catchup tv) is slower, buggier and frankly barely fit for it’s primary purpose in life – recording freeview to a hard disk. The only good point is the 3 tuners.
Mcmad – 1 minute ago »
Not sure why you are keeping up the ridiculous position of not being able to compare the 4/5000T to earlier boxes other than because you know the position is indefensible.
Compared to the T2 (a PVR), the 4/5000T (a PVR which also does catchup tv) is slower, buggier and frankly barely fit for it’s primary purpose in life – recording freeview to a hard disk. The only good point is the 3 tuners.
The only decent catch up a HDR-FOX-T2 does is iplayer and the response to the remote is very very slow. If you go too quickly it crashes the box. It also isn’t HD it’s 576p50.
The HDR-FOX-T2 is a excellent pvr especially with the CF ( I have 2 of them), it’s not any good for catch up though.
The one thing I can say about my FVP-5000T is it’s been 100% reliable in making recordings and the catch up services and Netflix are excellent.
The remote is weedy, the response to my Harmony and Hub is much much better.
Mcmad – 1 hour ago »
Not sure why you are keeping up the ridiculous position of not being able to compare the 4/5000T to earlier boxes other than because you know the position is indefensible.
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roll your eyes all you want, it doesn’t change the truth.
If I wanted something that was very good at catchup (which by all accounts the 4/5000T is apparantly), I wouldn;t spend £300 on one, I’d spend £50 or a Amazon Firestick or a kodi box.
I spent the £300 for a box to replace a T2 in the expectation that it would at least be as good as it, not become a Humax beta tester for their products.
I will add a +1 about the catchup on the device being a nice to have, not an essential.
I got a FVP-4000T about a year ago when my old Media Center PC finally gave up ghost as Microsoft have given up on Media Center. I briefly considered running Kodi (in fact I have used a RaspberryPi with XBMC, later Kodi before) but decided I wanted a simple “wife ready” device I did not actually have to administer. I chose the Humax as a friend was a big fan of their earlier models and especially because it had 3 tuners (I actually had had 4 on my old Media Center), and had a decent sized disc (2Tb). The Freeview Play catchup stuff was a nice to have, but frankly there is a better set of Apps on my SmartTV, on my Amazon Fire Stick, and NowTV box. Since the Humax has major misses in online services supported (no Amazon, no NowTV, no Plex, cannot act as target for Casting from phone), really all it does is add more confusion than anything (which version of iPlayer and I using, with which remote control?).
I find the UI of the Humax both slow and poorly designed. I won’t rehearse all the issues again, they are well documented here. I also find it less reliable than I would expect from a consumer device – recordings sometimes do not happen for no obvious reason, it reboots randomly, and has just lost recordings: all problems you will see mentioned here in the forums. It is slightly better in reliability than my old Media Center – but only just, and that is compared to software that stopped being properly supported about 5 years ago.
My dream PVR is actually pretty simple – just work reliably as a PVR, have at least 3 tuners, a large disc, a UI that is as well designed as on a Sky+, SkyQ or even the just the old Microsoft Media Center, and for a real dream one that supports CEC properly (not just for power), so I don’t need yet another remote control. Catch up and other apps are nice to have, but frankly if you can’t match the apps on my SmartTV don’t bother.
I bought the 5000T and having used it for a few days I am largely happy with it. Bearing in mind that I’ve come from a very slow T1000 and I haven’t used it to record anything yet this is what I like:
– It connected to my NAS without having to do anything at all – it was just there.
Because it can connect to the NAS – as my TV does – it has reduced the number of remote controls to just ONE.
– Iplayer works and is quick to navigate.
– Switching between the apps/media player is quick and intuitive.
And this is what I don’t like:
– The media on my NAS is displayed as unhelpfully large icons, I’d rather it was a List View so that I can read the while of the folder name.
– It won’t simply switch to another channel when you are watching TV. If you want to turn to another programme you have to select Guide, select Channel, select Programme, then from another screen featuring a summary of the programme you select the programme. This is appalling. Pretty sure it would have been quicker in the 1950s to get up from your sofa and retune to a different channel than it is with this box.
If anyone has any tips on fixing those last two things I’d love to hear them.
You can change to any channel while watching live by simply tapping in the channel number. eg 103 takes you to viewing ITV-HD. Same works in the epg by jumping to the epg line at the current date and time.
Are you saying you cannot change channel by simply pressing the CH up/down button or entering the channel number required on the remote keypad?
It’s fascinating reading all these comments as someone who’s vacillating at the moment whether to spend my money on a 5000t. My current Fox T2 is excellent but new gear excites me though my partner does not share the same enthusiasm especially if she can’t easily navigate or come to terms with a different interface.
Not automatically putting recordings into folders seems a retrograde step though.
Still can’t source a genuine RM-L08 control if I buy a 5000t. We both like to have a remote control each.
Volkswagen – 3 minutes ago »
It’s fascinating reading all these comments as someone who’s vacillating at the moment whether to spend my money on a 5000t. My current Fox T2 is excellent but new gear excites me though my partner does not share the same enthusiasm especially if she can’t easily navigate or come to terms with a different interface.
Not automatically putting recordings into folders seems a retrograde step though.
Still can’t source a genuine RM-L08 control if I buy a 5000t. We both like to have a remote control each.
Series recordings are put into folders automatically. The 5000T works with the Logitech Harmony remote controls (The Harmony remote actually works from further away than the original remote).
Series recordings work in the same way as a HDR-FOX-T2 but the new box lacks the capability to create your own folders.
Not quite the same way since you cannot add things to folders either. e.g. I recorded all the christmas University Challenges and want to put them in the same folder as the normal University Challenges. Can’t do it can I? They are stuck in their own folder.
And don’t get me started about how the newest one is automatically selected rather than the oldest!
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