Thinking of Defecting to Freeview Play FVP5000T

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  • #19457
    Anonymous
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    We have been hoping that an updated Humax Freesat Box may appear with the ability to record more than two concurrent programs and have a better and slicker UI. Many services now offer the ability to record multiple channels and we have had a lot of clashes recently which is usually down to broadcasters overlapping popular programs sometimes by just a few minutes. All that has appeared is a repackaged model (we have the original 1000S with an upgraded 2TB drive). We know Freesat control the UI but it is beginning to look dated and we also have the odd stability issue when recording two concurrent channels.

    We are being drawn towards the Humax FVP5000T which has had very good reviews and can record up to 4 programs and watch a 5th. Its also available with a 2TB drive. We have an excellent Freeview signal as we have direct line of sight to a main transmitter.

    We do not watch any non-Freesat channels and the channel lists look broadly similar.

    We have been satellite users for around 20 years, originally with a Pace Sky box, then an early Sky+ before leaving them and having a Humax Foxsat-HDR.

    Any reasons why we shouldn’t make the switch?

    Thanks for any advice.

    #82715
    Anonymous
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    I’ve just changed from a Foxsat HDR to an FVP5000T because of programme clash problems. To me the improvement is enormous but you do have to spend time getting used to the different UI. My wife and I both adapted to it very quickly and we are both in our seventies. Unlike some others I don’t find it at all slow, especially compared to the Foxsat HDR.

    I did have some problems with my first unit but Humax swapped it for a new one which has been fine. Everything seems to work as Humax designed it to do. Many of the criticisms of it are that Humax should have done things differently. Personally I like to spend my time watching TV rather than nit-picking over Humax’s implementation choices.

    If you do get one I suggest you buy from somone like John Lewis as it will be easier to return if you have problems.

    #82716
    grahamlthompson
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    davidrew – 9 hours ago  » 

    We have been hoping that an updated Humax Freesat Box may appear with the ability to record more than two concurrent programs and have a better and slicker UI. Many services now offer the ability to record multiple channels and we have had a lot of clashes recently which is usually down to broadcasters overlapping popular programs sometimes by just a few minutes. All that has appeared is a repackaged model (we have the original 1000S with an upgraded 2TB drive). We know Freesat control the UI but it is beginning to look dated and we also have the odd stability issue when recording two concurrent channels.

    We are being drawn towards the Humax FVP5000T which has had very good reviews and can record up to 4 programs and watch a 5th. Its also available with a 2TB drive. We have an excellent Freeview signal as we have direct line of sight to a main transmitter.

    We do not watch any non-Freesat channels and the channel lists look broadly similar.

    We have been satellite users for around 20 years, originally with a Pace Sky box, then an early Sky+ before leaving them and having a Humax Foxsat-HDR.

    Any reasons why we shouldn’t make the switch?

    Thanks for any advice.

    Recording wise none at all. I have a HDR-1000S and a FVP-5000T (both with 2TB drives).

    Neither is perfect. However the 1000S is a lot more responsive and most operations require less button presses. On the other hand the 5000T at least lists the episodes in a consistent date and time order unlike the weird order the 1000S produces when the broadcaster includes episode numbers.

    Now if only Humax would auto select the oldest rather than the newest when opening a series folder, add the capability to some screens so that when you go up one at the top of a long list it jumps to the last and the reverse at the bottom end of the list.

    It would also be handy when for instance you want to add a manual reservation you can jump to the channel you want to use by simply entering it’s number as you can jump in the epg. It’s a long way from 101 to 1 one channel at a time :-)

    A capability to add a series generated reminder would be handy on both boxes.

    With a bit more work the 5000T could become excellent.

    #82717
    Barry
    Moderator

    You can use page jump for selecting channel when setting a manual timer, does make it a little quicker :-)

    #82718
    Anonymous
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    grahamlthompson – 1 day ago  » 

    davidrew – 9 hours ago  » 

    We have been hoping that an updated Humax Freesat Box may appear with the ability to record more than two concurrent programs and have a better and slicker UI. Many services now offer the ability to record multiple channels and we have had a lot of clashes recently which is usually down to broadcasters overlapping popular programs sometimes by just a few minutes. All that has appeared is a repackaged model (we have the original 1000S with an upgraded 2TB drive). We know Freesat control the UI but it is beginning to look dated and we also have the odd stability issue when recording two concurrent channels.

    We are being drawn towards the Humax FVP5000T which has had very good reviews and can record up to 4 programs and watch a 5th. Its also available with a 2TB drive. We have an excellent Freeview signal as we have direct line of sight to a main transmitter.

    We do not watch any non-Freesat channels and the channel lists look broadly similar.

    We have been satellite users for around 20 years, originally with a Pace Sky box, then an early Sky+ before leaving them and having a Humax Foxsat-HDR.

    Any reasons why we shouldn’t make the switch?

    Thanks for any advice.

    Recording wise none at all. I have a HDR-1000S and a FVP-5000T (both with 2TB drives).

    Neither is perfect. However the 1000S is a lot more responsive and most operations require less button presses. On the other hand the 5000T at least lists the episodes in a consistent date and time order unlike the weird order the 1000S produces when the broadcaster includes episode numbers.

    Now if only Humax would auto select the oldest rather than the newest when opening a series folder, add the capability to some screens so that when you go up one at the top of a long list it jumps to the last and the reverse at the bottom end of the list.

    It would also be handy when for instance you want to add a manual reservation you can jump to the channel you want to use by simply entering it’s number as you can jump in the epg. It’s a long way from 101 to 1 one channel at a time :-)

    A capability to add a series generated reminder would be handy on both boxes.

    With a bit more work the 5000T could become excellent.

    Thanks for the feedback so far.

    Out if interest is there any interference between the remote controls for each box or do they happily co-exist with each other?

    #82719
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    See the faq’s

    http://myhumax.org/forum/topic/multi-code-function-hdhdr-remote-2

    My HDR-1000S is mode 1 and FVP-4000T mode 2. I also have a HDR-FOX-T2 and Foxsat-HDR in the same room. As there is 6 modes I have the capability to add another 2 :-)

    #82720
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Interesting thread.

    I’ve got a slightly different situation in that I’ve been using a BT youview box for a couple of years, which has started to play up, so I’ve fixed my dish and have fired up my old 1000S.

    I’m in two minds whether to upgrade my 1000S with a 2GB HDD, or switch to the FVP 5000.

    Recording more than 2 channels is nice, but not essential to me, and I’m sure that UHD HDR (HLG) enabled boxes will appear sometime in 2018.

    Parking the multiple tuner upgrade, is there a significant difference in user experience between the two, and is the media player in the FVP any better than the 1000s?

    #82721
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Just re-read the thread and Graham’s post seems to suggest that the differences are small, so I am tempted to stick with my old 1000s, especially now that Freesat support most freeview channels (one of the reasons I switched from Freesat to Freeview, e.g. channels like pick, quest, etc)

    #82722
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    ariharry – 12 minutes ago  » 

    Just re-read the thread and Graham’s post seems to suggest that the differences are small, so I am tempted to stick with my old 1000s, especially now that Freesat support most freeview channels (one of the reasons I switched from Freesat to Freeview, e.g. channels like pick, quest, etc)

    If you are happy with the record two and watch a third, as on demand services are much the same and picture quality is near identical, seems to be very sensible.

    For some the extra HD content for those with COM 7 access might be a consideration.

    #82723
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    grahamlthompson – 2 minutes ago  » 

    ariharry – 12 minutes ago  » 

    Just re-read the thread and Graham’s post seems to suggest that the differences are small, so I am tempted to stick with my old 1000s, especially now that Freesat support most freeview channels (one of the reasons I switched from Freesat to Freeview, e.g. channels like pick, quest, etc)

    If you are happy with the record two and watch a third, as on demand services are much the same and picture quality is near identical, seems to be very sensible.

    For some the extra HD content for those with COM 7 access might be a consideration.

    Thanks Graham.

    Are there any differences in media playback performance / capabilities?

    I’ve got a PLEX server with a bunch of content, and was wondering whether the media player on the FVP was any better than the 1000s (the 1000s media player is basic, but from memory it worked with most content, though had some aspect ratio issues).

    #82724
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    ariharry – 49 minutes ago  » 

    grahamlthompson – 2 minutes ago  » 

    ariharry – 12 minutes ago  » 

    Just re-read the thread and Graham’s post seems to suggest that the differences are small, so I am tempted to stick with my old 1000s, especially now that Freesat support most freeview channels (one of the reasons I switched from Freesat to Freeview, e.g. channels like pick, quest, etc)

    If you are happy with the record two and watch a third, as on demand services are much the same and picture quality is near identical, seems to be very sensible.

    For some the extra HD content for those with COM 7 access might be a consideration.

    Thanks Graham.

    Are there any differences in media playback performance / capabilities?

    I’ve got a PLEX server with a bunch of content, and was wondering whether the media player on the FVP was any better than the 1000s (the 1000s media player is basic, but from memory it worked with most content, though had some aspect ratio issues).

    Not something I have tested in any depth. There is one big difference SD content on the FVP4000/5000T is available externally, There is no way to view a G2 box content externally. If you have a specific file format and are able to provide a PM link to a small sample I can test if it plays.

    One recent feature of the G2 box can be handy. Just this evening after watching the second episode of the Crown Series 2 on Netflix, I changed to BBC 1 HD to see if anything was worth watching. Better half said I like Micheal Mcintiyre I would like to see it from the beginning. Quick as a flash I had the solution :-)

    The BBC channels have a new option on a programme already started, watch from the beginning when OK is clicked in the epg (Via IP of course). Brownie Points :D

    Of course this might come to FVP in the future.

    #82725
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I need some time to re-acclimatise myself with the box after a couple of years of youview exposure, and I’ll play around with my content and let you know if I have any questions about formats.

    I don’t seem to have any channel logos (pretty sure they were there before, though my memory fails me), but on demand works ok.

    I also need to figure out which 2tb HDD to fit, before I setup new recording schedules.

    Suffice to say, I’ve forgotten how nice the box is, and I’m likely to stick with it and save a few quid until the next gen boxes arrive.

    #82726
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    ariharry – 12 minutes ago  » 

    I need some time to re-acclimatise myself with the box after a couple of years of youview exposure, and I’ll play around with my content and let you know if I have any questions about formats.

    I don’t seem to have any channel logos (pretty sure they were there before, though my memory fails me), but on demand works ok.

    I also need to figure out which 2tb HDD to fit, before I setup new recording schedules.

    Suffice to say, I’ve forgotten how nice the box is, and I’m likely to stick with it and save a few quid until the next gen boxes arrive.

    When you change the HDD the recording schedule will be intact (it’s in NVRAM). Whether any of then will still be current is anyone’s guess :-)

    I have one of these in both my HDR-1000S and FVP-5000T.

    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=shop&q=seagate%20pipeline%202tb

    Guess you need to update the firmware. What version do you currently have ?

    By the way welcome back from the dark side :mrgreen:

    #82727
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    grahamlthompson – 6 minutes ago  » 

    ariharry – 12 minutes ago  » 

    I need some time to re-acclimatise myself with the box after a couple of years of youview exposure, and I’ll play around with my content and let you know if I have any questions about formats.

    I don’t seem to have any channel logos (pretty sure they were there before, though my memory fails me), but on demand works ok.

    I also need to figure out which 2tb HDD to fit, before I setup new recording schedules.

    Suffice to say, I’ve forgotten how nice the box is, and I’m likely to stick with it and save a few quid until the next gen boxes arrive.

    When you change the HDD the recording schedule will be intact (it’s in NVRAM). Whether any of then will still be current is anyone’s guess :-)

    I have one of these in both my HDR-1000S and FVP-5000T.

    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=shop&q=seagate%20pipeline%202tb

    Guess you need to update the firmware. What version do you currently have ?

    By the way welcome back from the dark side :mrgreen:

    Thanks. Good to be back!

    The STB was plugged in (I think it was in standby, though I’ve got a jungle of gadgets so not 100% sure).

    Firmware = UKSFAA 3.00.77. I expect a few things have changed since I used the box, though I need to get use to the lack of the coloured buttons (useful navigating/filtering stuff with the Harmony remote on the youview platform).

    I was just looking at the Seagate, so shall probably go for that.

    #82728
    grahamlthompson
    Participant

    3.00.77 is the latest. Box must have latest software. I use the Red – Backwards skip, Blue Forward skip and Green – Recordings on my Harmony Ultimate One in the device HDR-1000S.

    If you look at the guide on say BBC-1 HD on the current programme you should see a circular anticlockwise arrow indicating view from beginning is available.

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