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KenDoubleU – 23 hours ago »
REPASSAC
Thank you for the reply to my point with regard to the spec of 1100S to 1000
KenDoubleU
You question on what size would be good for recording HD. No easy answer, depends on how quickly you watch things. Me, I have a 2tb drive in my HD-1000S. My wife records a lot and we have over 50% free. In reality I could have got a 1tb unit but I like room to spare.
REPASSAC
Thank you again for your reply with regard to my other question.
My problem is that I do not know the size of the HDD in my elderly FOXSAT HDR and so find it hard to choose a suitable HDR 1100S to replace it (and to be able to record in HD).
It is confusing on the Humax website because the following URL
http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/product.php?gid=618
gives the 2TB version as being able to record 1000-hr in HD but the spec for the 2TB model gives 500-hrs in HD
http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/freesat/hdr-1100s-2tb-white.html
If you could throw some light on this it would be helpful for me to make a decision.
I do favour the 2TB model but may have to wait for black to be available.
Many thanks
Ken
For years the Foxsat only came with one disk size – 320 MB, Only much later did 500 MB and 1 tb appear.
REPASSAC
Thank you again. My Foxsat was a very early model and now you mention 320MB it sounds very familiar. That makes my decision much easier: I will go for the 2TB model.
Ken
BBC HD channels use approx. 3.3GB for each hour of recording time. The other HD channels have a higher average bitrate. ITV HD uses about 4.4GB per hour.
In recent years HD encoder performance has increased significantly.
Take the original BBC HD satellite channel, the original bitrate was around 17Mbps it’s now around 7Mbps. The best ITV SD channels in 2008 used 7Mbps.
If you recorded only BBC HD a 2TB drive would hold around 600 hrs.
Graham
Thank you the useful information of the HD bitrate for different channels.
We always record a series or serial that we are interested in completely, before watching. Consequently we always have much of the HDD capacity committed as the episodes are being added. For that reason we have never been able to use HD with our old Foxsat.
Now, with the way we prefer to watch our recordings, I will certainly go for the 2TB version of HDR 1100S.
Many thanks
Ken
KenDoubleU – 3 hours ago »
Graham
Thank you the useful information of the HD bitrate for different channels.
We always record a series or serial that we are interested in completely, before watching. Consequently we always have much of the HDD capacity committed as the episodes are being added. For that reason we have never been able to use HD with our old Foxsat.
Now, with the way we prefer to watch our recordings, I will certainly go for the 2TB version of HDR 1100S.
Many thanks
Ken
If you don’t mind me saying that’s a risky strategy. If you have one failed recording early on in the series and you don’t notice it then it’s possible the episode in question may no longer be available on one of the on-demand players.
I know of two people where this has occurred. Really really annoying.
Faust – 1 hour ago »
If you don’t mind me saying that’s a risky strategy. If you have one failed recording early on in the series and you don’t notice it then it’s possible the episode in question may no longer be available on one of the on-demand players.
I know of two people where this has occurred. Really really annoying.
Don’t forget these boxes are ultra reliable “set and forget” devices, surely checking to see if a series recording actually took place would be as pointless and futile as looking for a live recording indication.
Both graham and I have 2 TB units – while broadcasters can make the occasional cockup with the CRID codes that identify series or programmes – it is very rare.
Faust
I agree it is a risky strategy: it has very occasionally resulted in a problem where an episode has been partly lost and occasionally completely.
But nevertheless it suits us as being in late 70s it is easier to follow the plot of some convoluted story and remember what it is all about! It is also nice the have a ‘fest’ where you can watch a couple of episodes per day and feel more involved.
Rebuff
Actually I just open the folder to see if the recorded minutes agree with roughly what it should be. If it has not recorded or is too short then revert to seeing the episodes to date and then use iPlayer etc.
REPASSAC
Yes the start/stop signal and series link codes do appear to occasionally fail but I think it is a wonderful system. Updating to this new model will I am sure be a great joy to use – and 2TB will then able me to experience HD.
Thank you all, for your help and comments
Ken
You have,for example to be aware of the BBC making late changes to the schedule and not reflecting the change into the epg.
The latest example was the overrun of the golf into Monday and the transfer of the schedule to BBC-2 any BBC-1 recordings scheduled for the period the golf replaced the normal schedule failed.
There are other situations where series recordings can fail.
A few examples.
The BBC use the same series CRID for all regions. As a result if a different region usually Scotland happens to show a different episode at the same time when you set the recording from the epg you actually get two recordings scheduled at the same time. This is not an issue unless you have another recording scheduled at the same time.
A previous programme overruns, and the same tuner is required to record the second programme due to other reservations.
In this case the box preserves the end of the previous recording (which is what most would want), thus delaying recording of the next programme.
Like any other system, it requires those responsible to get the required data information correct.
Graham
From the way the system obviously has to contend with late changes and (for BBC) regional variations is seems remarkable that it works as well as it does.
Today we were recording Tour de France on ITV4, in what I call chasing mode – having left a good gap so as to be able to skip the ads, then start watching – when at the end of the 3-hr schedule it just stopped.
It was heavy rain earlier and so the race was being run slower than normal and the recording stopped before the presentations. So I have put it to record the highlights later and will see the presentations then.
Love your avatar – but do we really need a dual grid line for a PVR?
Ken
KenDoubleU – 1 hour ago »
Rebuff
Actually I just open the folder to see if the recorded minutes agree with roughly what it should be. If it has not recorded or is too short then revert to seeing the episodes to date and then use iPlayer etc.
Yes I do the same, I wasn’t being serious with the ultra reliable no need to ever check recordings etc.
I’ve found my 2TB 1000s to be pretty reliable but my G1 Foxsat has been better in the past with rescheduled programmes like sports events.
Regarding CRED codes I noticed the Anniversary Games series recorded cross channel on Friday but didn’t set a recording for the Saturday afternoon event. So I do think it is worth keeping an eye on it.
Reffub
Interesting that the older Foxsat has performed better at keeping to rescheduled events, than a later model.
I still marvel at how it all gets sorted out. Recordings ‘move’ to a different region part way though a series to avoid a clash for the two tuner channels.
Nice to know that you also have opted for a 2TB device.
Ken
KenDoubleU – 11 minutes ago »
Graham
From the way the system obviously has to contend with late changes and (for BBC) regional variations is seems remarkable that it works as well as it does.
Today we were recording Tour de France on ITV4, in what I call chasing mode – having left a good gap so as to be able to skip the ads, then start watching – when at the end of the 3-hr schedule it just stopped.
It was heavy rain earlier and so the race was being run slower than normal and the recording stopped before the presentations. So I have put it to record the highlights later and will see the presentations then.
Love your avatar – but do we really need a dual grid line for a PVR?
Ken
Yes you do, each input from your lnb is an independent entity to a twin tuner pvr. This possibly a perfect analogy to two lnb connections to a twin tuner pvr
If anyone has been to France, just South of Paris, there are some grid towers that carry 4 circuits (a quad lnb). Not seen a 8 circuit equivalent, nor likely to. A direct lightning strike affecting 8 routes would be likely to cause complete collapse of the entire grid.The UK grid is planned to support the loss of both circuits carried on the same grid towers over a specific distance. There are location in a very small area (or where when I retired) which could cause a much larger loss of transmission capability (potentially a total collapse of the whole system). Automatic load shedding systems based on the local frequency disconnect demand to avoid this issue. It would be horrendously expensive (Or perhaps impossible) to cater for this very unlikely situation. Not going to indicate where they were for obvious reasons.
As in all things the security of the supply depends on the risk. If someone stuck a pick in the service cable to your house it would be unreasonable to expect your supply to be restored until the service cable was restored, Suppose a aircraft hit a 400Kv tower carrying two circuits, you would not expect (nor have) a massive power cut.
To come clean. I was a Nstional Grid operations planning engineer for many years. If your lights went out since 2000, it wasn’t me honestly
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